|
What is Prose?, A definition |
|
|
|
Aug 9 03, 17:24
|

Mosaic Master

Group: Administrator
Posts: 18,892
Joined: 1-August 03
From: Massachusetts
Member No.: 2
Real Name: Lori Kanter
Writer of: Poetry & Prose
Referred By:Imhotep

|
What is Prose anyway?
PROSE can be defined as: The ordinary way we speak and write in sentences and paragraphs. (Examples: newspapers, magazines, letters, novels, short stories, speeches, conversations, everything except POETRY.)
Prose is the unrhymed, nonmetrical, everyday language we speak and write at any or all levels. We usually mean written language when we use the word prose, however, and we contrast prose with poetry or verse. Sometimes (but rarely) we contrast it with fiction, as well.
Inadvertent rhyme in prose, as in "Please clean the screen", can often mar a passage’s effectiveness, just as deliberate use of it is a favorite attention-getting device in advertising. Like excessive alliteration, deliberate rhyme in prose, especially rime riche (pronounced REEM REESH), which uses two or more words pronounced and sometimes spelled alike but with different meanings (as in He’s a fishy sort, with no more soul than a sole), is of dubious merit except for jocular use.
Good prose usually avoids repetitive regular metrical patterns, just as it avoids or minimizes inadvertent rhyme, but that doesn’t mean it lacks rhythm. Avoid insistently obvious patterns, particularly overlong stretches of text, because rocking-horse regularity can be either soporific or inadvertently funny. Seek instead the variety and effectiveness of a rhythm that reinforces meaning, provides variety, and is easy and pleasant to read, silently or aloud. Parallelism, as in I came, I saw, I conquered, judicious placement of adverbs, as in Attempt the work willingly, accept its discomforts patiently, and respond to the result cheerfully, variety in lengths and kinds of sentences, as in We planned the attack with care, we committed our resources with restraint, and we controlled our zeal with patience; nonetheless, we failed, and juxtapositions of grammatical and rhetorical stress, as in with liberty and justice for all, are all examples of ways you can vary and control the rhythm of your prose.
Source: http://www.bartleby.com
·······  ·······
"It's a dangerous business, Frodo, going out your door. You step into the Road, and if you don't keep your feet, there is no knowing where you might be swept off to." ~ J.R.R Tolkien, The Lord of the RingsCollaboration feeds innovation. In the spirit of workshopping, please revisit those threads you've critiqued to see if the author has incorporated your ideas, or requests further feedback from you. In addition, reciprocate with those who've responded to you in kind. "I believe it is the act of remembrance, long after our bones have turned to dust, to be the true essence of an afterlife." ~ Lorraine M. KanterNominate a poem for the InterBoard Poetry Competition by taking into careful consideration those poems you feel would best represent Mosaic Musings. For details, click into the IBPC nomination forum. Did that poem just captivate you? Nominate it for the Faery award today! If perfection of form allured your muse, propose the Crown Jewels award. For more information, click here! "Worry looks around, Sorry looks back, Faith looks up." ~ Early detection can save your life.MM Award Winner 
|
|
|
|
|
 |
Replies
Guest_Jox_*
|
Sep 2 05, 18:22
|
Guest

|
Hi Perry,
Behind my comment was a slightly more serious point.
With respect, I disagree with your definition of poetry.
Why not say prose is what we choose not to call poetry?
Neither definition actually says anything does it?
Now, my definition of poetry is no more helpful - poetry is what the writer says it is. However, if something that I don't think is remotely poetic is posted as poetry I then ask the writer, "I accept this is poetry, as you say it is - but why do you say it's poetry?"
In a way, of course, it doesn't matter at all. But humans like classifications and sometimes it can be inconvenient if people ignore them. Also, if people post things I don't think are poetry I want to know what I'm not understanding; what new opportunities there are. etc.
One objection I took to your definition was that it suggests poetry must be in a written language. Must it? Cannot many things be (if not poetry per se) at least poetic?
If poetry is what prose isn‘t and vikky-verky then we still have no division betwixt the two. We might as well scrap the words “poetry“ and “prose“ and just use “writing“ - which might be a very good idea.
I don‘t think anything has absolutes (poetry is...) but I can‘t accept defining one in terms of the absence of t‘other - and vikky-verky again - sheds any light at all.
Thanks for the discussion.... very interesting.
J.
|
|
|
|
Posts in this topic
Cleo_Serapis What is Prose? Aug 9 03, 17:24 Don An interesting tack to view of what prose consists... Aug 17 03, 19:24 Martinus Julius Caesura QUOTE (Don @ Aug. 17 2003, 20:24)...Then a po... Sep 1 03, 03:38 Don QUOTE (Martinus Julius Caesura @ Sep. 01 2003... Sep 1 03, 08:50 Martinus Julius Caesura QUOTE (Don @ Sep. 01 2003, 09:50)QUOTE (Marti... Sep 1 03, 14:57 Don Greetings again Martinus Julius Caesura
Apparent... Sep 1 03, 15:11 Calloused i believe that you are overlooking some of the mos... Aug 31 05, 21:02 Perrorist Prose is what you choose not to call poetry. Sep 1 05, 02:37 Jox Hi Perry...
I'm almost with you there but I t... Sep 1 05, 02:58 Perrorist Prose is what you choose not to call poetry or bak... Sep 2 05, 16:07 Cleo_Serapis QUOTE (Perrorist @ Sep. 01 2005, 03:37)Prose ... Sep 2 05, 18:10 Perrorist James, I think I was agreeing with you when you sa... Sep 2 05, 19:42 Jox Hi Perry,
Thanks for your reply.
Sorry, seems I ... Sep 2 05, 19:54 Perrorist I came across this quote just now, James, and I th... Sep 12 05, 03:08 Cleo_Serapis QUOTE (Perrorist @ Sep. 12 2005, 04:08)I came... Sep 12 05, 05:35 JLY What is Prose? depends on your perspective.
If yo... Sep 12 05, 06:02 Toumai John,
You smoooth operator, you! (Are you giv... Sep 12 05, 14:27 Jox Hi Perry,
No wonder I don't understand rhythm... Sep 12 05, 16:41 Ephiny Hello everyone!
What an interesting discussio... Sep 12 05, 16:56 Toumai John - I was right! You ARE a smoooth operator... Sep 13 05, 01:54 Perrorist QUOTE (Toumai @ Sep. 13 2005, 16:54)In prose ... Sep 13 05, 02:15 Jox OK, my bottom line is too big.
Right, I'll st... Sep 13 05, 02:50 Cleo_Serapis I find this tile very interesting!
It seems ... Sep 13 05, 05:31 Nina That is, so long as they are aware of different ty... Sep 13 05, 06:26 Calloused i mean, are you kidding me?
poetry can be far more... Sep 14 05, 19:18 Cleo_Serapis QUOTE (Calloused @ Sep. 14 2005, 20:18)i mean... Sep 15 05, 05:34 JLY "A prose writer gets tired of writing prose, and w... Sep 15 05, 06:15 Toumai Thanks for that, John
Poetry by Dictionary.com:
... Sep 15 05, 06:31 JLY Fran,
You gave us much to ponder about the differe... Sep 15 05, 06:53 Nina Hi Fran
philosophically, would you agree that bot... Sep 15 05, 07:00 Jox Hi all,
Fran, yes the definitions are circular. I... Sep 15 05, 07:20 Perrorist I think the man on the Clapham omnibus would recog... Sep 15 05, 14:57 Jox Hi all,
Perry:
"This suggests to me that conven... Sep 15 05, 15:30 Cleo_Serapis and romantics ? Sep 15 05, 16:20 Nina Lori - and romantics
I wouldn't know! ... Sep 15 05, 16:25 Toumai Nina, that's a thoroughly modern attitude: ... Sep 16 05, 01:08 Perrorist QUOTE (Toumai @ Sep. 16 2005, 16:08)Nina, tha... Sep 16 05, 01:19 Cleo_Serapis QUOTE (Perrorist @ Sep. 16 2005, 02:19)QUOTE ... Sep 16 05, 05:13 Perrorist I think 'pants' is British slang for somet... Sep 16 05, 05:17 Cleo_Serapis Ahhh - dunno Perry.
Perhaps one of the members ... Sep 16 05, 05:35 Nina Hi Lori, Perry
Pants means - rubbish, nonsense
N... Sep 16 05, 06:15 JLY Thoughts by other notables:
A poem begins in deli... Sep 16 05, 06:16 Nina Say all you have to say in the fewest possible wor... Sep 16 05, 06:23 Jox Hi all,
Yes Ruskin had a point.
Whilst an under... Sep 16 05, 09:56 JLY James,
T think we all might be a bit confused by t... Sep 16 05, 10:26 Nina Perhaps we should start another thread wherein we ... Sep 16 05, 14:04 JLY Nina,
It's the same here in the US. My 20 year... Sep 16 05, 14:25 Toumai What a good quote from Ruskin. Orwell was another ... Sep 16 05, 14:30 Jox Hi John,
Watcha mate! (Hello, how are you?)
... Sep 16 05, 14:53 JLY James,
Try this...it is far from a complete collec... Sep 16 05, 15:11 Jox Ta John.
Going to take a butcher's...
J. Sep 16 05, 15:16 Nina thanks for the link John.
I'll mosey on over ... Sep 16 05, 15:36 Perrorist Here's a couple of Aussie slang dictionaries:
... Sep 16 05, 15:47 Jox Ta Perry,
I don't see much ponting in slang m... Sep 16 05, 16:03 Rosemerta I just stumbled onto this tile and couldn't pa... May 25 06, 11:31
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:
|
  |
Read our FLYERS - click below
Reference links provided to aid in fine-tuning
your writings. ENJOY!
|
|
|
|