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Cleo_Serapis
post Dec 5 04, 10:19
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I've just created this new poetic form today. I am dubbing it Trois-par-Huit (Three-by-Eight or Octa-Tri). It  is a poem containing 8 lines, displayed visually with three stanzas of either tercet, tercet, couplet  (3, 3, 2) OR tercet, couplet, tercet (3, 2, 3) as follows;


1. The title is also the final line.

The line length requirements:
Line 1 ~ 3 syllables
Line 2 ~ 6 syllables
Line 3 ~ 9 syllables

Lines 4 & 5 ~ 12 syllables

Line 6 ~ 9 syllables
Line 7 ~ 6 syllables
Line 8 ~ 3 syllables (is the title and summarizes the meaning of the poem)

The rhyme scheme requirements:
Line 1. A
Line 2. A
Line 3. B
Line 4. B
Line 5. B
Line 6. C
Line 7. C
Line 8. C

Give it a try!


~Cleo  Snowflake.gif

UPDATE: Daniel has dubbed the form: Trois-par-Huit (Three-by-Eight) and I've just changed the stanza alignment to 3/2/3 as well....

Nature's King


The firs rise
touching star-twinkled skies
standing vigil o’er evening’s glow

wrapped in sparkling charms of glitter gold, ashen snow
embraces kisses of crimson berries below

where silvery cherubs dance and sing
…symbols of joy to bring
Nature’s King.



© 2004 Lorraine M Kanter






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Hi Lori - commented on your fine piece in the crit thread. Well done.

Hi Liz... This had me much interested, Must have read it twenty times...

I'm sure it is a very accurate 3x8 but it flows well and the words have absolutly fascinated me.

This isn't a crit forum so but I don't have a lit crit point to make - it's fine.

I was interested in the certainty with which you wrote this. I use poetry to praise, to criticise, to search for human values (heck that sounds terribly pompous, sorry!) in other words, I have few certainties - then mostly negative ones (I don't accept this and that etc).

You use poetry - here at least - to proclaim your certainty with a confidence in something I simply don't have. This poem has bold statements, the type of which I wouldn't dare make. It is a personal credo - or, at least, a window on one - of powerful magnitude. It uses rueful sadness to support one stance and knock another down. It really is very skilful, indeed.

I find it fascinating how you link creed and liberty; the religious and the political - we both do that, from opposite perspectives.

I take one strongly political point - that liberty allows attacks upon liberty. How do democracies democratically protect democracy? Can they?

I was unsure if "lesser creeds" - we could debate that one! referred to Islam or Atheism - or both (it was plural). (I am assuming this from a Christian perspective because, if my mind serves me right (!!!) I think I have see you write as a Christian previously - sorry if I'm wrong.

This is a really-well worked argument. If I have understood it (and I am uncertain about that) then I deeply disagree with it. That supports the excellence of the poetry - you have brilliantly encapsulated so much in such a short time - in form, too!

I really enjoyed reading this, Liz and (again, if I am right) it is absolutely brilliant to see someone address some of the issues which I try to - from a very different perspective. In that sense, at least, I hope you don't mind if I say I find us soul-mates. Such issues deserve debating and poetry is an excellent medium.

Thanks you for this - really very good indeed.

James.


Hi James,

I apologize for the delay in reading your response and getting my reply posted. I've been so busy with Christmas running around! wink.gif Thank you for the amazing compliment on my convictions and the way I write. The poem at hand, didn't really have a religious tilt, or even a political tilt... actually it wasnt about Iran, war, or even the 911 incident at all. Lately, I've been noticing society in general--good people get over looked, and underminded, while those that do wrong or live in such a way that the create heartache for others (leaving their pieces for others to pick up) seem to get rewarded these days. However, the unfortunate thing is I had not seen the strong underlying meanings of religious/political and social intent... I agree that poetry is a magnificent release for our views and expressions of todays issues that aren't often discussed in full.

I'm at work right now and will be back again...would appreciate if you point me in the direction of some of your work that expresses these issues too! wink.gif

Hugs, Liz...

Happy Holidays!





As Truth Dies

When justice
leads others to entice
the lesser creed to proclaim their goals

and praise the passing of such gentle and kind souls
acclaiming all the heartless are bearer's of woes
I fear that Lady Liberty cries

Her torch blown out by sighs
as Truth dies





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- Cleo_Serapis   Trois-par-Huit (Three-by-Eight) Octa-Tri   Dec 5 04, 10:19
- - JustDaniel   Dear Cleo: I love your significant variation of a...   Dec 6 04, 00:33
- - Cleo_Serapis   Hello Daniel!   That is an excellent suggest...   Dec 6 04, 04:44
- - Jox   Ref: MB !-204 AB Copyright. To all - NB The sy...   Dec 6 04, 07:29
- - JustDaniel   Whew!   I'm so pleased that you took my s...   Dec 6 04, 07:52
- - Cathy       I thought I'd give this a try!    ...   Dec 6 04, 14:14
- - Cleo_Serapis   QUOTE (Jox @ Dec. 06 2004, 07:29)Ref: MB !-20...   Dec 6 04, 19:09
- - Cleo_Serapis   QUOTE (Just Daniel @ Dec. 06 2004, 07:52)Whew...   Dec 6 04, 19:11
- - Cleo_Serapis   QUOTE (larrysgirl5548 @ Dec. 06 2004, 14:14) ...   Dec 6 04, 19:13
- - Jox   Thanks Lori. Just thought I'd dabble.... I s...   Dec 6 04, 19:22
- - Cathy   Thanks, I've used your suggestions, it really ...   Dec 6 04, 23:34
- - AMETHYST   Oh my... This is so wonderful! Lori, you know how ...   Dec 7 04, 03:00
- - AMETHYST   Hey Lori, Would you mind If I spread your name a...   Dec 7 04, 03:23
- - Cleo_Serapis   QUOTE (AMETHYST @ Dec. 07 2004, 03:00)Oh my.....   Dec 7 04, 05:23
- - Jox   Lori... far from me with forms and all that, but.....   Dec 7 04, 06:20
- - Cleo_Serapis   QUOTE (Jox @ Dec. 07 2004, 06:20)Lori... far ...   Dec 7 04, 06:22
- - Cleo_Serapis   QUOTE (AMETHYST @ Dec. 07 2004, 03:23)Hey Lor...   Dec 7 04, 12:38
- - Jox   Hi Daniel, Sorry! I've tried really hard ...   Dec 7 04, 19:22
- - AMETHYST   QUOTE Posted on Dec. 07 2004, 14:01 --------------...   Dec 7 04, 21:58
- - Jox   Good Morning Daniel, I popped back here looking f...   Dec 8 04, 03:08
- - JustDaniel   Thank you, James.   I assure you that nothing tha...   Dec 8 04, 09:35
- - Jox   Hi Daniel, Thank you very much for returning with...   Dec 8 04, 10:55
- - JustDaniel   Thank you for your much needed, encouraging words,...   Dec 8 04, 11:28
- - Cleo_Serapis   Christmas Tree Lights aglow; silver tinsel to thr...   Dec 9 04, 17:33
- - AMETHYST   As Truth Dies When justice leads others to entice...   Dec 11 04, 03:06
- - Jox   Hi Lori - commented on your fine piece in the crit...   Dec 11 04, 05:04
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- - AMETHYST   QUOTE (Cleo_Serapis @ Dec. 31 2004, 10:21)Tee...   Dec 31 04, 12:19
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- - Cleo_Serapis   QUOTE (AMETHYST @ Jan. 01 2005, 06:42) A Kin...   Sep 9 05, 05:13
- - AMETHYST   Thanks Lori, Sorry I hadn't noticed this reply. ...   Oct 11 05, 20:12
- - AMETHYST   A Blank Slate Starting out a new; no ounce of dou...   Oct 11 05, 20:37
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- - AMETHYST   Hey Lori, Good suggestion! I will either go with...   Oct 21 05, 21:27
- - AMETHYST   QUOTE (Cleo_Serapis @ Oct. 18 2005, 17:56)QUO...   Oct 21 05, 21:53
- - Cleo_Serapis   Hi Liz. I think I like this version a tad more of...   Oct 22 05, 08:07
- - Cleo_Serapis   You could also say: What keeps me here is securit...   Oct 22 05, 08:08
- - AMETHYST   Hey Lori, I rather like this one most too. With pe...   Oct 22 05, 16:19
- - Cleo_Serapis   Yes - I this latest one Liz. Well done! ~Cleo   Oct 22 05, 17:10
- - AMETHYST   Thanks Lori.  :sun:  You brighten my ...   Oct 22 05, 21:20
- - Cleo_Serapis   Hi Liz.  :sun: Thanks so much! It's now the...   Oct 23 05, 06:38
- - AMETHYST   Hurricane 'Swoooshing' sounds surround us; rain...   Oct 25 05, 17:41
- - Cleo_Serapis   Your Hurricane 3x8 Liz! You have such a knack fo...   Oct 25 05, 19:42
- - AMETHYST   THank you Lori, It is a wonderful form of poetry...   Oct 30 05, 09:50
- - AMETHYST   The silence is more a consequence of what has been...   Nov 5 05, 23:30
- - Cleo_Serapis   These are such poignant pieces Liz. Each has it...   Nov 7 05, 06:28
- - Cleo_Serapis   OK Rellie...   I've just written another one to...   Nov 13 05, 14:52
- - AMETHYST   Hey Lori, Absolutely divine! The message is some...   Nov 13 05, 15:08
- - AMETHYST   These 3 final lines could be a poem within themsel...   Nov 13 05, 15:12
- - Cleo_Serapis   QUOTE (AMETHYST @ Nov. 13 2005, 15:08)Hey Lor...   Nov 13 05, 15:28
- - AMETHYST   A new Day I believe; that stars are quite naive a...   Nov 20 05, 16:24
- - Cleo_Serapis   Breathtakingly beautious Liz! This is so lovely ...   Nov 20 05, 16:35
- - AMETHYST   QUOTE (Cleo_Serapis @ Nov. 20 2005, 16:35)Bre...   Nov 20 05, 18:27
- - Cleo_Serapis   Liz. Your chapbook title is perfect!   You've i...   Nov 24 05, 08:43
- - AMETHYST   Hey Lori, Oh I am spending next Christmas with y...   Dec 5 05, 21:42
- - Cleo_Serapis   Liz - this is so beautiful - you've got the rhyme ...   Dec 6 05, 06:28
- - JustDaniel   Note: Subsequent to posting this, I realized that ...   Dec 23 05, 10:21
- - JustDaniel   distracted one more day ere I will taste cool spr...   Sep 14 06, 13:38
|- - Cleo_Serapis   QUOTE (JustDaniel @ Sep 14 06, 14:38 ) di...   Sep 15 06, 05:35
- - JustDaniel   Point taken, Lori. I've posted a revision.....   Sep 15 06, 06:51
- - Cleo_Serapis   Here's an interesting thread I just found by g...   Oct 21 07, 20:29
- - Sekhmet   Hi Cleo - here is my five minute verse - I am alwa...   Nov 19 09, 03:52
- - Cleo_Serapis   Very interesting observation, Leo. I don't act...   Nov 19 09, 08:53
- - Larry   Saw this and thought I'd try my hand at one. ...   Mar 13 15, 15:07
|- - Cleo_Serapis   OOOh Hi Larry! So glad you stopped in to tr...   Apr 13 15, 10:06
- - JustDaniel   What's 'is Name Once upon a time before t...   Mar 15 15, 04:50
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- - Larry   Thanks Lori, I did try your "Quarte-par-Huit...   Apr 14 15, 14:05

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