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Sep 18 06, 10:03
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You left me for manicured streets, the precision clip of lawns that end in floral arrangements, haute coutre plantings in Stepford beds,
left my woods and the natural lay of a land where tall pines whisper and bats hang from the branches that offer a thick mat of needles to the goddess who grants birth in the cycle of maiden, mother and crone.
You left me for houses where tamed women crumble behind chemical peels and hide the clawing of their wolf;
and yet I know that I left you long before because the wildness of the moon could not be withdrawn from my breast.
~Rene~ Schwiesow
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Sep 18 06, 10:18
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QUOTE(duetsdove @ Sep 18 06, 15:03 ) [snapback]83623[/snapback] You left me for manicured streets, [the] precision clip of lawns that end in floral arrangements, haute coutre plantings in Stepford beds,
left my woods [and] the natural lay of a land where tall pines whisper(,) [and] bats hang from the branches that offer a thick mat of needles(,) to the goddess who gants birth in the cycle of maiden, mother(,) (crone.) [and crone.]
You left me for houses where [tamed] women crumble 'subdude' maybe instead of tamed behind chemical peels and hide the clawing of their wolf;
[and] yet I know that I left you long before because the wildness of the moon could not be withdrawn from my breast.
~Rene~ Schwiesow Just some small nits for you to use or lose. Steve
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Sep 18 06, 11:08
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Good Morning Ren,
i read this twice and was wondering, what is 'gants' (in S2/L6)? i can't find the word in my dictionary or on-line. Is the word a typo for 'grants'?
Thanks, ~tim
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Sep 18 06, 12:43
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oops. ..typo. . .*blushes*. . .I read this through twice after posting. . .and still missed it.
grants -- is the word.
Thanks, Tim
~Ren~
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Sep 18 06, 13:20
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Hey Steve ~ Thanks for stopping, reading. . .and sharing your nits regarding this piece. . .appreciate your time!
~Ren~
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Sep 19 06, 16:56
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Hi Ren,
"In the Releasing of our Hands" as in letting go of the past, a relationship, memories?
You left me for manicured streets, the precision clip of lawns that end in floral arrangements, 'that box in floral arrangements'? Maybe... *smiles* haute coutre plantings in Stepford beds, Good two lines!
left my woods and the natural lay of a land where tall pines whisper and bats hang from the branches[,] that offer a thick mat of needles to the goddess who grants birth in the cycle of maiden, mother and crone. Lovely imagery!
You left me for houses where tamed women crumble behind chemical peels and hide the clawing of their wolf; This seems a bit sad... as though they've surrendered a part of themselves. I got a sense of being trapped or something. That's why I thought of 'box in' for line 3.
and yet I know that I left you long before because the wildness of the moon could not be withdrawn from my breast. My favorite verse! It sounds so deep and earthy! *smiles*
I enjoyed the read Ren... Thanks for sharing!
Cathy
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Sep 20 06, 05:32
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Ren, I thought the mood and telling of this was affirmative and not angry, this sort of poem is hard to do without letting anger shade the cloth, so to speak.
I must admit I felt S1 was stereotyping. However I could see the distinction you were making was more archetypical, and it seemed the poem's subject was not just an old lover but the kind of thinking that results in 'The Stepford Wives'. I think Cathy's suggestion of 'box-in' is inspired. I would change the wording of L1 to enhance the 'what-a-bad-move' message. (delete) [add]
(f)[F]or manicured streets(,)(Y)[y]ou left me[,] (the) (for) precision clip of lawns [,] (that end) [boxed] in floral arrangements, haute coutre plantings in Stepford beds(,) [.]
[You] left my woods and the natural lay of a land where tall pines whisper and bats hang from the branches that offer a thick mat of needles to the goddess who grants birth in the cycle of maiden, mother and crone.
You left me for houses where tamed women crumble behind chemical peels and hide the clawing of their wolf;
and yet I know that I left you long before because the wildness of the moon could not be withdrawn from my breast.
no nits about the rest except to say that perhaps the narrator left long before more because that wildness was not evident in her 'wolf'. Cheers Gregory
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Sep 22 06, 09:53
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Hello Ren, QUOTE(duetsdove @ Sep 18 06, 10:03 ) [snapback]83623[/snapback] You left me for manicured streets, the precision clip of lawns that end in floral arrangements, ---i'm stuck on these three lines. i'll have to think on this longer. haute coutre plantings ---(sp) haute couture?in Stepford beds, ---plantings in beds? As in lawn beds, because your creating a comparison for S3 when the N returns to talk about the condition of the women that live there? i kept missing that, thinking floral arraingments 'in' the bed and then i was struggling with some sort of etching on an expensive canopy. Help?left my woods and the natural lay of a land where tall pines whisper and bats hang from the branches ---from this line to the remainder of the S, reminds me a little of "Nick and the Candlestick" by Sylvia Plath. that offer a thick mat of needles to the goddess who grants birth in the cycle of maiden, mother and crone. You left me for houses where tamed women crumble behind chemical peels and hide the clawing ---what do you think of changing 'and' to 'that' to add more to the tamed-ness of the women?of their wolf; and yet I know that I left you long before, ---(comma)because the wildness of the moon ---what do you think of '...the wilderness of the moon'? It sounds nice adding an 'r' to let it carry through the last four lines of this S and wilderness is 'wild' by definition.could not be withdrawn from my breast. ~Rene~ Schwiesow So, i love S2-4 and the poem's overall contrast/comparison between these tightly woven stanzas, but i flinch with S1. You've described this well and there is the inference of money vs. life added to the city vs. rural dichotomy among the comparisons of S1 and S3, among purposes that stanza performs. For me, this poem is close, i need to ponder S1 longer and see where it settles in my gut. i haven't been around much lately...everything has been a little crazier in tim's personal. Hope the start of school went well? ~tim
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Sep 22 06, 18:26
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For now, I'll just say I enjoy the reading, as always. I'll be back after the experts toy with this some more and then share my further thoughts after I try to wrap my mind better around it. deLightin' in your writin', Daniel
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Sep 23 06, 06:27
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QUOTE(JustDaniel @ Sep 22 06, 19:26 ) [snapback]83871[/snapback] For now, I'll just say I enjoy the reading, as always. I'll be back after the experts toy with this some more and then share my further thoughts after I try to wrap my mind better around it. deLightin' in your writin', Daniel Hi Rene. I WILL be back to comment personally on this poem soon. In the meantime, I hope you don't mind my 'butting in' that Daniel's reply just prompted me to do. Daniel - we are all 'learning' at various levels of critiquing our member's works, and I'm certain some consider you an 'expert'. Why wait on offering your commentary to Rene? PLEASE DO set an example and post a crit as soon as you've read the piece while it is still fresh in your mind (since you took the time to post a reply). Thank you! Lori
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Sep 23 06, 09:41
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I certainly will, Lori... but I often need others' help to grasp Rene's depth. Sometimes I'm right on her wavelength. This is not one of those times... so, trust me, I'll comment. My visit was a courtesy for the moment. I am certainly trying to learn how to crit FV better, but first, for me I have to have a grasp of the piece. Okay? I always appreciate the reminder, of course, so this is certainly not a rejoinder. I'm right with ya, my Queen! deLightin' in the opportunity, Daniel
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