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A CONSTANT GARDENER [revised 25 Mar 08], Wizard Award ~ A writers dilemma |
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Nov 28 07, 17:20
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I think it would be fine to post it above the original and say it's a re-write. I've done that several times. S
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Forgiveness is the fragrance the violet sheds on the heel that has crushed it. MM Award Winner 
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Nov 28 07, 17:55
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The idea is identification so each version/revision can be referenced during comment. Oftimes someone will like the original better. Selected mixing also occures. This is why keeping all revisions makes a better workshop environment.
Here I am babbling and I am not a moderator.
Don
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Nov 29 07, 08:47
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Yes! No time now to say more, but I nominate this for most improved poem of the year.
Mary
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Nov 29 07, 12:47
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Better? Thank you so much for the nomination. I don`t know what means, but it sure did tickle me to peaches. Much love!!!
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Nov 29 07, 20:51
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Referred By:Eric Linden

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Your premise is concisely and precisely expressed with well-executed delivery. I echo HeartSong's nudge and commend the change. Well done! Fran
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Nov 30 07, 06:40
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Hi Linda, :cook: I enjoy you tightened revision a tad more than the original as it seems to make the message more succinct. I have just a couple of suggestions to toss into the recipe for you to ponder as you wish below. I'm hungry now for a nice sweet piece of fruit!~Cleo  If only words would grow on vines, I`d serve them up along these lines; taste the crop that came to flower and dine on prose from hour to hour. **Here, I suggest not duplicating hour to hour, perhaps a sub. like 'within this fine hour'. Partake of leaves. Partake of root. **Again, here I suggest finding a sub/ for 'partake' since you've already used it above and the poem is so short as is - perhaps 'consume', 'savor', 'sample' or 'render roots' (for alliteration)?I save the best for last... the fruit.
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"It's a dangerous business, Frodo, going out your door. You step into the Road, and if you don't keep your feet, there is no knowing where you might be swept off to." ~ J.R.R Tolkien, The Lord of the RingsCollaboration feeds innovation. In the spirit of workshopping, please revisit those threads you've critiqued to see if the author has incorporated your ideas, or requests further feedback from you. In addition, reciprocate with those who've responded to you in kind. "I believe it is the act of remembrance, long after our bones have turned to dust, to be the true essence of an afterlife." ~ Lorraine M. KanterNominate a poem for the InterBoard Poetry Competition by taking into careful consideration those poems you feel would best represent Mosaic Musings. For details, click into the IBPC nomination forum. Did that poem just captivate you? Nominate it for the Faery award today! If perfection of form allured your muse, propose the Crown Jewels award. For more information, click here! "Worry looks around, Sorry looks back, Faith looks up." ~ Early detection can save your life.MM Award Winner 
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Nov 30 07, 12:39
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Thank you for suggestions Cleo. I am going to have to "chew" on this for a while. I understand the repeating words is kind of a "no-no". But, then it just depends (saying this, I don`t know what it depends on). As I view the poem today, it sounds comfortable to me. More reviews on this issue would be appreciated while a mull and stew.
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Nov 30 07, 12:56
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Linda, QUOTE I understand the repeating words is kind of a "no-no". But, then it just depends (saying this, I don`t know what it depends on). It depends on whether it works. In my opinion, in this poem, it does and well. Sue
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Nov 30 07, 13:22
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Thanks again! It was kind of what I was thinking. It felt "complete"! At least, it did to me.
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Nov 30 07, 17:45
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Referred By:Kathy Earsman

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QUOTE I understand the repeating words is kind of a "no-no". Sez who? Ask somebody that knows, like Tennyson. "Half a league, half a league, half a league onward..."
"Break, break, break ..."
Repetition is every bit as valid a poetic device as assonance, consonance, alliteration and the like. I can see calling each other to task if it's clearly a case of sloppy writing, like forgetting you used the same word two lines earlier, and maybe that's where the confusion lies. I agree, this one is complete -- don't MacPoem it. (You won't find that term at Bob's Byway, but it's pretty much self-explanatory, isn't it?) As for the nomination, if there isn't already a category for most improved, there should be. I'm extremely impressed with the way you took critique to heart, then came right back with something fresh and uniquely yours. Wayta go, Linda. Keep 'em comin', Mary
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Nov 30 07, 20:16
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Thank you so much Nada. I have been slammed for reminding people of Tennyson, Wordsworth, Keats...like that is a bad thing. The slammers (for the most part) want me to write like Gaetjen. This is just between you and me. I don`t see that happening. Again many thanks. Now...back to the drawing board.
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Dec 1 07, 07:58
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Mosaic Master

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That's so unfortunate Linda. I've had my share of 'those types' in the past (trolls, yahoos). Slammers (or Yahoos as I call them) have no place on critique forums, they obviously do not understand the whole concept of fostering feedback and most often have evil intentions. When we step out of our own comfort zone and put ourselves out there to be reviewed, we expect respect and courtesy (in an honest, yet friendly manner) and tend to give same in return to better ourselves and the art that is poetry. Some just do not understand the concept - what's that expression: "You get more with honey than with vinegar"? Remember, your poem is your own - and when you are comfortable with it, that is when it is perfected. It's nice to have others share that but remember, it's always up to you. ~Cleo
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"It's a dangerous business, Frodo, going out your door. You step into the Road, and if you don't keep your feet, there is no knowing where you might be swept off to." ~ J.R.R Tolkien, The Lord of the RingsCollaboration feeds innovation. In the spirit of workshopping, please revisit those threads you've critiqued to see if the author has incorporated your ideas, or requests further feedback from you. In addition, reciprocate with those who've responded to you in kind. "I believe it is the act of remembrance, long after our bones have turned to dust, to be the true essence of an afterlife." ~ Lorraine M. KanterNominate a poem for the InterBoard Poetry Competition by taking into careful consideration those poems you feel would best represent Mosaic Musings. For details, click into the IBPC nomination forum. Did that poem just captivate you? Nominate it for the Faery award today! If perfection of form allured your muse, propose the Crown Jewels award. For more information, click here! "Worry looks around, Sorry looks back, Faith looks up." ~ Early detection can save your life.MM Award Winner 
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Dec 1 07, 10:46
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Thank you for the feedback Cleo. I can take a rough critique. I have had some dillys! There was only one (recently), that was both shocking and hurtful, wherein the reviewer told me to "Wise up, geezer....", "You are a bad poet". etc.. In spite of that, I did learn much from this persons rant, once I took out all the slurs. Lay on McDuff...MacDuff....Mac and Cheese?!!
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Mar 16 08, 08:52
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Mosaic Master

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Congrats Linda on your wizard award winning tile!  Well done!  ~Cleo
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"It's a dangerous business, Frodo, going out your door. You step into the Road, and if you don't keep your feet, there is no knowing where you might be swept off to." ~ J.R.R Tolkien, The Lord of the RingsCollaboration feeds innovation. In the spirit of workshopping, please revisit those threads you've critiqued to see if the author has incorporated your ideas, or requests further feedback from you. In addition, reciprocate with those who've responded to you in kind. "I believe it is the act of remembrance, long after our bones have turned to dust, to be the true essence of an afterlife." ~ Lorraine M. KanterNominate a poem for the InterBoard Poetry Competition by taking into careful consideration those poems you feel would best represent Mosaic Musings. For details, click into the IBPC nomination forum. Did that poem just captivate you? Nominate it for the Faery award today! If perfection of form allured your muse, propose the Crown Jewels award. For more information, click here! "Worry looks around, Sorry looks back, Faith looks up." ~ Early detection can save your life.MM Award Winner 
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Mar 16 08, 11:53
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Thank you so much for your support.
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Mar 24 08, 16:21
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Dear Xanadu and All, This was a most, most rewarding read, every comment! Cheers, ron jgd
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Mar 25 08, 05:49
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Mosaic Master

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Hi Linda, One more suggestion for the sentence below (to keep it in line with your beginning): I save the best for last... Change it to : I'd save the best Cheers, ~Cleo
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"It's a dangerous business, Frodo, going out your door. You step into the Road, and if you don't keep your feet, there is no knowing where you might be swept off to." ~ J.R.R Tolkien, The Lord of the RingsCollaboration feeds innovation. In the spirit of workshopping, please revisit those threads you've critiqued to see if the author has incorporated your ideas, or requests further feedback from you. In addition, reciprocate with those who've responded to you in kind. "I believe it is the act of remembrance, long after our bones have turned to dust, to be the true essence of an afterlife." ~ Lorraine M. KanterNominate a poem for the InterBoard Poetry Competition by taking into careful consideration those poems you feel would best represent Mosaic Musings. For details, click into the IBPC nomination forum. Did that poem just captivate you? Nominate it for the Faery award today! If perfection of form allured your muse, propose the Crown Jewels award. For more information, click here! "Worry looks around, Sorry looks back, Faith looks up." ~ Early detection can save your life.MM Award Winner 
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Mar 25 08, 06:03
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Thanks Cleo.
Done and done.
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