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> To Polonius and Roark, Voltaless sonnet
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post Jun 1 05, 08:46
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Pour forth your heart with words of intellect.
Speak loud and clear regarding your true thought.
Conviction based on honest introspect...
that only mental judgments e'er be taught.
Polon'us spoke, such words a maxim grew
and Howard Ro'rk his actions did proclaim.  (The Fountainhead)
All men of mind, where man transcends the zoo,
as confidence of rightfulness draws blame.

To stand for what your mind tells you is right,
to overcome advice from ovine ilk,
to stand alone while "woolies"  mass to fight,
proclaim to sheep the benefits of silk! *

 "Unto thyself be true", these  sages said,
 "Don't let the thoughts of others turn your head".

*Irony intended as sheep are docile and have no appreciation for silk.

original version
line four-''thought" replaced by "taught'
space provide between lines 8-9 and 12-13.






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post Jun 2 05, 02:53
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Good morning Ron,

This is a wonderful read, I know of Polonius from Hamlet but I have not read the Fountainhead.
Could you give a little explanation at the bottom for the ignorant amongst us - or a link to where we might read a little more about this character?

Back to your poem. It has a wonderful flow when I read it out loud.
I have no nits at present. I just want to copy it and then come back. Read.gif


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post Jun 2 05, 07:14
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Dear Grace,
You are right on in asking about Howard Roark if you want the most out of "To Polonius and Roark",
The best quick source for Roark is

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fountainhead

The book was made into a powerful motion picture which I think you can get on tape or disk.

I hold Ayn Rand in high esteem and although her premise of the value of untempered individualism runs counter to the religions of the world and political correctness, it has first call on my goosebumps!
Seeing the movie is both entertaining and a learning experience.


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post Jun 2 05, 15:30
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Hi Ron

I know nothing of Polonius and Roark but taking your poem as a "stand alone" I like the message it gives.

Pour forth your heart with words of intellect.
Speak loud and clear regarding your true thought.
Conviction based on honest introspect...

Wise words.  Know yourself and be honest with yourself and having done that stand up for what you believe and don't just follow others or say what you think they want to hear.

"Unto thyself be true", these  sages said,
"Don't let the thoughts of others turn your head".

Stick to your own truth and don't be swayed by others.

Thanks for this very deep and philosophical poem.  It brings to my mind the writings of Khalil Gibran which I love.

Nina




 
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post Jun 4 05, 02:44
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Hi Ron,

Don't no what to say really

Hmm...Perhaps,


Thoughts black, hands apt, drugs fit, and time agreeing,
Confederate season, else no creature seeing,
Thou mixture rank, of midnight weeds collected,
With Hecate's ban thrice blasted, thrice infected,
Thy natural magic and dire property
On wholesome life usurps immediatly.

In appreciation of your poetry Ron.

Though there are no black thoughts, but Lucianus really meant what he voiced.


Good to get into the swing of things mate.

Your a master Ron,


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post Jun 4 05, 09:11
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Dear Arnie,
You had me stymied at first as I didn't recognize the words of Lucianus nor even who he was.
I suspect you just might be an expert on Shakespeare and so will
post some rewritten scenes from well-known S plays if you show any interest.
Meanwhile, I'll sleep with earplugs.
Cheers,    jgd

Dear Nina,
I wonder what in the public schools on both sides of the pond is
being taught of Shakespeare now. His works seem to get better each year as I age and my respect for him ever grows.

Dear Grace,
I'm so pleased that you read this aloud! Anything I write in verse is intended to emphasize flow and will be enhanced by sound.

Cheers to all,    jgd


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post Jun 5 05, 16:18
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Hello Ron.  :frenchie:

A well stated sonnet! I often like to voice my thoughts at work, however, sometimes my mind twists my words into something I should NOT have voiced! Wall.gif

I enjoyed the deeper meaning in your poem Ron and practice these thoughts and teachings as I can. Wizard.gif


A few nits for you to ponder:

Pour forth your heart with words of intellect.
Speak loud and clear regarding your true thought.
Conviction based on honest introspect...
that judgment from the mind be ever thought taught.

I see you have used the word 'thought' twice. I want to read L4 as "taught" so that is my suggetion there.

Polon'us spoke, such words a maxim grew
and Howard Ro'rk his actions did proclaim.  (The Fountainhead)
All men those of mind, where man transcends the zoo,
as confidence of rightfulness draws blame.

To stand for what your mind tells you is right,
to overcome advice from ovine ilk,
to stand alone while "woolies"  mass to fight,
proclaim to sheep the benefits of silk! *

"Unto thyself be true", these  sages said,
"Don't let the thoughts of others turn your head".

Why not have your closing couplet be its own stanza?

Cheers!
~Cleo  :pharoah2


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post Jun 6 05, 11:50
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Dear Cleo,
My double use of thought was as you figured in error. I've corrected it. I've also broken the sonnet into line groups of 8,4 and the couplet.
Anyone wanting to learn more of Polonius, see "Sire to Scion".
Cheers,     jgd


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