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Guest_Jox_*
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May 27 05, 12:18
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Hi Nina
Thanks for popping back.
>N>I agree with Lucie. The last line does "hit the reader" and - for me anyway, the sadness came across clearly, though I realise I didn't actually say so in my post. It is also the most important line in the poem.
Thanks Nina,
I shall also carefully consider what you say, too.
I appreciate your re-visit. Thank you.
J.
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May 27 05, 13:46
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Hi James,
However, if I was a little taken aback with your Frankie Howard comment, I'm really quite concerned by your latest comments...
I simply don't believe in misinterpretation of art. You brought your interpretation to my work and I'm very grateful for that. I didn't (don't) wish you to retract at all - I just asked you to explain. Why should your view not be as valid as anyone else's - including mine?
I actually absolutely agree. I love it when people bring new ideas to my poems, see new things there.
As regards an apology - thank you for your consideration but I cannot accept it at all. You have nothing whatsoever for which to apologise. (Apart from apologising, that is! )
James, please accept my heartfelt apologies for apologising
Sorry, Fran, I understand far less now than after your original posting. This has served to confuse me far more, I'm afraid.
Originally, I thought you had a new, interesting, though surprising interpretation.
Now, I find you took one of my two intended meanings perfectly
But you find that funny.
Help? Could you or anyone explain, please? I'm reet confused.
What is funny about an artist realising he is inadequate to the task?
James, there is nothing in the least funny about inadequacy per se (I should know - as we all do: everyone feels inadequate in something(s) in life). However, I thought the single terse sentance in which you bring it out so brilliantly and with such down to earth language was a very funny one liner ... a 'punch line,' as it were. So I guess I thought it 'hit,' too (am I squirming or what? )
When I think about a lot of the best humour it takes our inadequacies and holds them up and shines light on them so we see them - and ourselves - in a new way.
So as I read the poem, the first part was a charming eulogy (is that the right word?) to the woodland and nature, but the punch line is a very human failure - a) to be capable of capturing it in general (who could? ) and b) to have cocked up even the contemplation in a very human way.
So the 'humour' for me strengthens the message enormously ...
I shall leave it there, as I am not sure I can explain any better.
Thanks for bearing with my strange ideas.
Fran
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May 27 05, 15:59
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It came to pass...
Thanks Fran - I'll be back to this tomorrow. Much appreciated. J.
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May 28 05, 05:39
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Hi Fran,
>J>However, if I was a little taken aback with your Frankie Howard comment, I'm really quite concerned by your latest comments... I simply don't believe in misinterpretation of art. You brought your interpretation to my work and I'm very grateful for that. I didn't (don't) wish you to retract at all - I just asked you to explain. Why should your view not be as valid as anyone else's - including mine?
>F>I actually absolutely agree. I love it when people bring new ideas to my poems, see new things there.
Ah! Harmony.
>J>As regards an apology - thank you for your consideration but I cannot accept it at all. You have nothing whatsoever for which to apologise. (Apart from apologising, that is! ) >F>James, please accept my heartfelt apologies for apologising
Fran, I'm delighted to accept your apology (plural not needed). Thank you.
>J>Sorry, Fran, I understand far less now than after your original posting. This has served to confuse me far more, I'm afraid. Originally, I thought you had a new, interesting, though surprising interpretation. Now, I find you took one of my two intended meanings perfectly But you find that funny. Help? Could you or anyone explain, please? I'm reet confused. What is funny about an artist realising he is inadequate to the task? >F>James, there is nothing in the least funny about inadequacy per se (I should know - as we all do: everyone feels inadequate in something(s) in life). However, I thought the single terse sentance in which you bring it out so brilliantly and with such down to earth language was a very funny one liner ... a 'punch line,' as it were. So I guess I thought it 'hit,' too (am I squirming or what? )
What.
Oooh err. Thank you.
>F>When I think about a lot of the best humour it takes our inadequacies and holds them up and shines light on them so we see them - and ourselves - in a new way.
Oh Mrs.
>F>So as I read the poem, the first part was a charming eulogy (is that the right word?)
err?
>F> to the woodland and nature, but the punch line is a very human failure - a) to be capable of capturing it in general (who could? ) and b) to have cocked up even the contemplation in a very human way.
"cocked-up contremplation" - Comedy Howard's Way methinks.
>F>So the 'humour' for me strengthens the message enormously ...
Thank you. Titter ye on.
>F>I shall leave it there, as I am not sure I can explain any better. Thanks for bearing with my strange ideas.
Strange - nah, I can do far stranger.
Thanks Fran.
Up Pompeii!
J.
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May 28 05, 10:47
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Group: Gold Member
Posts: 3,660
Joined: 23-August 03
From: Somerset, England
Member No.: 22
Real Name: Grace
Writer of: Poetry & Prose
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Hello James,
I'm with Daniel I'm afraid. I don't understand why this is written in green ink.
If the main body was in green and the last line in black it would make more sense to me Or if the statement in the first line is true, what would it matter what colour ink you have in your pen James? Help :detective:
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Guest_Jox_*
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May 28 05, 15:26
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Hi Grace,
Thanks for popping-back.
>G>I'm with Daniel I'm afraid. I don't understand why this is written in green ink. If the main body was in green and the last line in black it would make more sense to me Or if the statement in the first line is true, what would it matter what colour ink you have in your pen James? Help.
Sorry, Grace, all I can do is to repeat my reply to Daniel...
>J>"The sad truth is that I always post my work in a green font and did that as usual, not thinking."
Sorry for the boring answer - but thanks for the question.
J.
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Guest_Billydo_*
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Jun 4 05, 10:09
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Hi James
Resignation, humour, frustration, longing ... it has it all. Very clever nd minimalist.
Cheers
Mike
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Jun 4 05, 10:17
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Hi Mike,
Good to see you again.
Thanks for digging this semi-recent one out. You've reminded me I need to go through the crits on this. (I'm behind as always seems the case these days).
>M>Resignation, humour, frustration, longing ... it has it all. Very clever nd minimalist.
Thanks and, in fact, I'm just going to leave MM and my house and take the dogs to the very place I wrote this, in Micheldever Woods. So good to re-read it.
Best wishes,
James.
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Guest_Billydo_*
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Jun 4 05, 10:26
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Come back with another one of your country walk poems.
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Jun 11 05, 09:57
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Posts: 18,892
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From: Massachusetts
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Real Name: Lori Kanter
Writer of: Poetry & Prose
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Congrats James on your wizard award winning tile!
Well done!
~Cleo :)
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Guest_Jox_*
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Jun 11 05, 10:22
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Hi Lori,
Thank you very much.
J.
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Guest_Nina_*
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Jun 11 05, 10:23
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Hi James
Congratulations on your wizard award, a lot said in few words.
Nina
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Guest_Jox_*
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Jun 11 05, 10:25
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Hi Nina,
Thank you for the congratulations - and more so for your kind comment. Much appreciated.
J.
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