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Mar 13 16, 01:28
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REVISION
Not You…!
Train is a bullet aimed at the heart rail brakes shrieks smell of rain and disaster- my perceptions askew.
A misshapen body spotlighted by frosted gyrating green lights
firetrucks ambulances police cars men shouting orders- a stretcher? My notion of time fluctuates.
Recapturing white beaches nomads’ caves and bonfires Sharm-el-Sheik miracle of sundown on Red Sea hands interlocked.
God, don’t let it be you.
Life broke up tonight lurching sightless through drenched thoughts this didn’t happen I picture you snorkelling brilliant underwater creatures translucent coral bays …freedom.
Awareness returns- rain spatters windshields momentously vexed drivers smoke waiting at level-crossing headlamps sharpen chaotic roadscape.
Uniforms raise a soiled white sheet and I scream into the fog:
Not you…!
Sylvia Evelyn, Bariloche, Argentine Patagonia, 2016. All Rights reserved as a published work.
ORIGINAL
Not You…!
Train is a bullet aimed at the heart railway shrieks skids smell of rain and disaster- my world is far-off.
A misshapen body featured by frosted gyrating green lights ambulances police.
Recapture white beaches nomads’ caves and bonfires Sharm-el-Sheik miracle of sundown on Red Sea hands interlocked.
God, don’t let it be you.
Life broke up tonight lurching sightless through drenched thoughts this didn’t happen I picture you snorkelling brilliant underwater creatures translucent coral bays …freedom.
Rain spatters windshields momentously vexed drivers smoke waiting at level-crossing headlamps sharpen chaotic roadscape.
Somebody raises a soiled white sheet and I scream into the fog:
Not you…!
Sylvia Evelyn, Bariloche, Argentine Patagonia, 2016. All Rights reserved as a published work.
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Mis temas favoritos The Lord replied, my precious, precious child, I love you and I would never leave you. During your times of trial and suffering, when you see only one set of footprints, it was then that I carried you.
"There is no life higher than the grasstops Or the hearts of sheep, and the wind Pours by like destiny, bending Everything in one direction."
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Mar 14 16, 14:41
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Hi Syl,
Your muse is working well at the moment and your latest poems are all very imaginative and original. I'm really enjoying reading them.
This is full of emotional drama - a dreaded moment! Comments below.
Not You…!
Train is a bullet aimed at the heart railway shrieks skids smell of rain and disaster- my world is far-off.
I love the way this starts - first 2 lines are stunning L3 shrieks skids is a bit of a tongue twister - for me anyway. Perhaps a comma between might help
A misshapen body featured by frosted gyrating green lights ambulances police.
Recapture white beaches nomads’ caves and bonfires Sharm-el-Sheik miracle of sundown on Red Sea hands interlocked.
God, don’t let it be you.
I can sense the emotion here - something everyone dreads!
Life broke up tonight lurching sightless through drenched thoughts this didn’t happen I picture you snorkelling brilliant underwater creatures translucent coral bays …freedom.
Rain spatters windshields momentously vexed drivers smoke waiting at level-crossing headlamps sharpen chaotic roadscape.
You have measured the tension for the reader very well
Somebody raises a soiled white sheet and I scream into the fog:
Dreaded moment - Oh Syl!
Not you…!
What a relief! Even so, a shocking moment to recover from!
I've really enjoyed reading this (if enjoyed is the right word) There is little or nothing to nit. All I would comment on is lack of punctuation - quite fashionable today, but does leave some places more difficult to follow.
Hugs Eira
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Mar 15 16, 16:01
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The style seems fast. It reminds me of a poet that wants to aim for impact, as per opening lines "Train is a bullet aimed at the heart". I find the poem fragmentary as if the series of action became so urgent, but its cleverness is the realised theme, of disasters in motion. Well done
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Mar 15 16, 21:33
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Not crazy about this one Syl. It seems to be all over the place. It doesn't seem to unfold well, at least not for me.
I'm not liking the opening lines. It's a little too melodramatic for me and unfortunately sets the tone for that degree of high drama.
Luce
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Mar 16 16, 01:24
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Hi Eisa, Thanks for your encouraging comments. Hope my muse keeps musing...LOL.
QUOTE (Eisa @ Mar 14 16, 17:41 ) Hi Syl,
Your muse is working well at the moment and your latest poems are all very imaginative and original. I'm really enjoying reading them.
This is full of emotional drama - a dreaded moment! Comments below.
Not You…!
Train is a bullet aimed at the heart railway shrieks skids smell of rain and disaster- my world is far-off.
I love the way this starts - first 2 lines are stunning L3 shrieks skids is a bit of a tongue twister - for me anyway. Perhaps a comma between might help
Yes, I might think of other words. In this instance, I prefer not to punctuate, the reason being that in such dramatic events the mind is a jumble. Want to show that by using this style as well as a blurry mix of thoughts...to and fro... But a word change is a good idea, tx!
A misshapen body featured by frosted gyrating green lights ambulances police.
Recapture white beaches nomads’ caves and bonfires Sharm-el-Sheik miracle of sundown on Red Sea hands interlocked.
God, don’t let it be you.
I can sense the emotion here - something everyone dreads!
Good, that's what I want to get across. The emotional factor, in this case a terrible one.
Life broke up tonight lurching sightless through drenched thoughts this didn’t happen I picture you snorkelling brilliant underwater creatures translucent coral bays …freedom.
Rain spatters windshields momentously vexed drivers smoke waiting at level-crossing headlamps sharpen chaotic roadscape.
You have measured the tension for the reader very well
Somebody raises a soiled white sheet and I scream into the fog:
Dreaded moment - Oh Syl!
Not you…!
What a relief! Even so, a shocking moment to recover from!
Oh, dear, Eisa...I think my ending must be confusing. The accident is real, not a relief at all. The "Not you...!" is supposed to be in a shrieking voice, a voice in total denial, of disbelief. Will have to check that. Tx.
I've really enjoyed reading this (if enjoyed is the right word) There is little or nothing to nit. All I would comment on is lack of punctuation - quite fashionable today, but does leave some places more difficult to follow.
Not enjoyable content...no. Still, lack of punctuation has been around for a long time, sometimes it suits one's purpose. I don't think it's a new fashion. Tx so much for your comments, they make me reflect and mull over changes. Hugs, Syl
Hugs Eira
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Mis temas favoritos The Lord replied, my precious, precious child, I love you and I would never leave you. During your times of trial and suffering, when you see only one set of footprints, it was then that I carried you.
"There is no life higher than the grasstops Or the hearts of sheep, and the wind Pours by like destiny, bending Everything in one direction."
Sylvia Plath, Crossing the Water, Wuthering Heights. Nominate a poem for the InterBoard Poetry Competition by taking into careful consideration those poems you feel would best represent Mosaic Musings. For details, click into the IBPC nomination forum. Did that poem just captivate you? Nominate it for the Faery award today! If perfection of form allured your muse, propose the Crown Jewels award. For more information, click here!MM Award Winner
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Mar 16 16, 01:33
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Hi Antony, Thanks for your words. I did, indeed, use this style (without punctuation) as well as the fragmented series of thoughts, memories and actions, to show 'disaster in motion', as you put it so well. It just came out this way. You've understood the scenario. Tx a lot. Syl
QUOTE (greenwich @ Mar 15 16, 19:01 ) The style seems fast. It reminds me of a poet that wants to aim for impact, as per opening lines "Train is a bullet aimed at the heart". I find the poem fragmentary as if the series of action became so urgent, but its cleverness is the realised theme, of disasters in motion. Well done
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Mis temas favoritos The Lord replied, my precious, precious child, I love you and I would never leave you. During your times of trial and suffering, when you see only one set of footprints, it was then that I carried you.
"There is no life higher than the grasstops Or the hearts of sheep, and the wind Pours by like destiny, bending Everything in one direction."
Sylvia Plath, Crossing the Water, Wuthering Heights. Nominate a poem for the InterBoard Poetry Competition by taking into careful consideration those poems you feel would best represent Mosaic Musings. For details, click into the IBPC nomination forum. Did that poem just captivate you? Nominate it for the Faery award today! If perfection of form allured your muse, propose the Crown Jewels award. For more information, click here!MM Award Winner
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Mar 16 16, 01:47
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Yep, it's all over the place, as you say. My intention is to show a truly dramatic scenario, a real one. Where thoughts and actions are not guided by rationality. In this sort of ghastly event, some people (in real life) are indeed melodramatic, as viewed by others not connected with the victim(s). Therein the bored, vexed drivers, smoking while they wait for the barriers to lift. Level crossings are few nowadays in cities, thankfully. Out on the Argentine pampas and some provinces, they still exist. Tx for your input, all the same, Luce. Syl
QUOTE (Luce @ Mar 16 16, 00:33 ) Not crazy about this one Syl. It seems to be all over the place. It doesn't seem to unfold well, at least not for me.
I'm not liking the opening lines. It's a little too melodramatic for me and unfortunately sets the tone for that degree of high drama.
Luce
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Mis temas favoritos The Lord replied, my precious, precious child, I love you and I would never leave you. During your times of trial and suffering, when you see only one set of footprints, it was then that I carried you.
"There is no life higher than the grasstops Or the hearts of sheep, and the wind Pours by like destiny, bending Everything in one direction."
Sylvia Plath, Crossing the Water, Wuthering Heights. Nominate a poem for the InterBoard Poetry Competition by taking into careful consideration those poems you feel would best represent Mosaic Musings. For details, click into the IBPC nomination forum. Did that poem just captivate you? Nominate it for the Faery award today! If perfection of form allured your muse, propose the Crown Jewels award. For more information, click here!MM Award Winner
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Mar 16 16, 13:08
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QUOTE (Psyche @ Mar 16 16, 02:47 ) Yep, it's all over the place, as you say. My intention is to show a truly dramatic scenario, a real one. Where thoughts and actions are not guided by rationality. In this sort of ghastly event, some people (in real life) are indeed melodramatic, as viewed by others not connected with the victim(s). Therein the bored, vexed drivers, smoking while they wait for the barriers to lift. Level crossings are few nowadays in cities, thankfully. Out on the Argentine pampas and some provinces, they still exist. Tx for your input, all the same, Luce. Syl
QUOTE (Luce @ Mar 16 16, 00:33 ) Not crazy about this one Syl. It seems to be all over the place. It doesn't seem to unfold well, at least not for me.
I'm not liking the opening lines. It's a little too melodramatic for me and unfortunately sets the tone for that degree of high drama.
Luce I was aware of what you were going for Syl, but IMO it didn't work. The story did not unfold well but you're assuming I meant logically, not at all. I know you were going back and forth but it just wasn't a smooth transition, IMO. Perhaps using a refrain to tie the events together would be better to slowly build up the tension. I can see using "No, not you!" as a refrain.Not You…! You're already giving away the store. Something a little more subtle like "The train to (mention the city/place...").Train is a bullet aimed at the heart railway shrieks skids smell of rain and disaster- my world is far-off. I'm not a big fan of missing articles and punctuation. It can be viewed as very gimmicky. However, in this case, the reader does stop/pause naturally for each line the way it is written in this stanza.
Opening lines a little "over the top" I'm afraid. Don't quite buy the train as a bullet to the heart. It definitely can be seen as a bullet, especially if it's silver colored. Perhaps concentrating on the speed and power of it can convey that foreboding of impending tragedy. A misshapen body featured by frosted gyrating green lights ambulances police. I think you can be more descriptive than saying "misshapen and featured" for the body. BTW, where is the body? Is it on the tracks, on the side of the road?
I'm assuming you were trying to employ altys in the stanza with "f'" (featured/frosted) and "g" (gyrating/ green) but it resulted in bland wordage for the death. It could be tighter with stronger wording like...
"A mangled body stark against the frosted lights dragged along the track."
You need a comma between ambulances and police. Recapture white beaches nomads’ caves and bonfires Sharm-el-Sheik miracle of sundown on Red Sea hands interlocked. I realize the N is going back, happier memories with the subject. But, the transition is too abrupt.God, don’t let it be you. Too abrupt a turn. You need a transitional phrase.Life broke up tonight lurching sightless through drenched thoughts this didn’t happen I picture you snorkelling brilliant underwater creatures translucent coral bays …freedom. I like the going back in memory, into denial already. But since the N doesn't even placed herself at the scene yet, it's hard for me to feel anything except to gather facts.Rain spatters windshields momentously vexed drivers smoke waiting at level-crossing headlamps sharpen chaotic roadscape. Show how the drivers are vexed don't just tell us. Are they looking at their watches? Are they honking their car horns? Smoking their cigarettes doesn't necessarily indicate impatience. It could infer resignation at the delay for whatever reason. I think you mean headlights not headlamps. Headlights are for cars. Headlamps are the lights you strap around your head.Somebody raises a soiled white sheet and I scream into the fog: Not you…! I like the ending but I would make it more stark. Give the reader a clearer reason why the N is screaming. A bloodied sheet gives the clue that something horrible is underneath the sheet. I'd also indicate the person who is lifting the sheet. For example:
"A policeman raises a bloodied sheet and I scream into the fog."
You can interpret the ending line two ways. "Not you!" can mean the victim is not a loved one. "Not you!" can mean it is a loved one. If this was my poem I'd leave it open for interpretation. Either ending fits the poem.
Luce
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Mar 17 16, 19:12
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QUOTE (Psyche @ Mar 16 16, 06:24 ) Not you…!
What a relief! Even so, a shocking moment to recover from!
Oh, dear, Eisa...I think my ending must be confusing. The accident is real, not a relief at all. The "Not you...!" is supposed to be in a shrieking voice, a voice in total denial, of disbelief. Will have to check that. Tx.
I did realise the accident was real, Syl, but thought the 'not you' meant it was not the narrator's loved one, but someone else's (still enough for a very emotional scream)- but this could be read either way and I think I'm the only one to read it that way. It is regarded by some to have duality of thought.
I've really enjoyed reading this (if enjoyed is the right word) There is little or nothing to nit. All I would comment on is lack of punctuation - quite fashionable today, but does leave some places more difficult to follow.
Not enjoyable content...no. Still, lack of punctuation has been around for a long time, sometimes it suits one's purpose. I don't think it's a new fashion. Tx so much for your comments, they make me reflect and mull over changes. Hugs, Syl
I feel it is 'fashionable' for some to write every piece without punctuation. You on the other hand have used it to for a purpose. I accept that. I know we sometimes insist that punctuation is used here, but times change and I feel it is good to experiment sometimes.
Not much to do to this one imo.
Hugs Eira
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Mar 17 16, 20:35
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Eisa - You're not alone in your interpretation of the last line. I also thought that the N was screaming in relief that it wasn't a loved one.
Clearly that has to be changed if that wasn't the poet's intent. However, the poet can also let it be interpreted in more than one way (as you mentioned above). In this case, either ending fits.
As far as punctuation goes, this method works if the lines are constructed well. If the lines are done that it naturally makes the reader pause or stop where the poet wants the reader to pause or stop, then the method works for the poem and not against it.
Luce
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Mar 18 16, 03:19
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[quote name='Eisa' date='Mar 17 16, 22:12 ' post='142906'] [quote name='Psyche' post='142878' date='Mar 16 16, 06:24 ']Not you…!
What a relief! Even so, a shocking moment to recover from!
Oh, dear, Eisa...I think my ending must be confusing. The accident is real, not a relief at all. The "Not you...!" is supposed to be in a shrieking voice, a voice in total denial, of disbelief. Will have to check that. Tx.
I did realise the accident was real, Syl, but thought the 'not you' meant it was not the narrator's loved one, but someone else's (still enough for a very emotional scream)- but this could be read either way and I think I'm the only one to read it that way. It is regarded by some to have duality of thought.
Thanks a lot, Eisa. Now I understand. I'll think about whether I want it to have a duality of meaning. When I get down to doing my revision I hope I'll have decided.
I've really enjoyed reading this (if enjoyed is the right word) There is little or nothing to nit. All I would comment on is lack of punctuation - quite fashionable today, but does leave some places more difficult to follow.
Not enjoyable content...no. Still, lack of punctuation has been around for a long time, sometimes it suits one's purpose. I don't think it's a new fashion. Tx so much for your comments, they make me reflect and mull over changes. Hugs, Syl
I feel it is 'fashionable' for some to write every piece without punctuation. You on the other hand have used it to for a purpose. I accept that. I know we sometimes insist that punctuation is used here, but times change and I feel it is good to experiment sometimes.
Yes, you're quite right. I have a poet friend who absolutely never uses punctuation. And I like most of his work. But in my case, as you say, I used it for a purpose. I only write a few in this style. Tx for clearing that point up! Hugs, Syl
Not much to do to this one imo.
Hugs Eira
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Mis temas favoritos The Lord replied, my precious, precious child, I love you and I would never leave you. During your times of trial and suffering, when you see only one set of footprints, it was then that I carried you.
"There is no life higher than the grasstops Or the hearts of sheep, and the wind Pours by like destiny, bending Everything in one direction."
Sylvia Plath, Crossing the Water, Wuthering Heights. Nominate a poem for the InterBoard Poetry Competition by taking into careful consideration those poems you feel would best represent Mosaic Musings. For details, click into the IBPC nomination forum. Did that poem just captivate you? Nominate it for the Faery award today! If perfection of form allured your muse, propose the Crown Jewels award. For more information, click here!MM Award Winner
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Mar 18 16, 03:51
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Thanks a lot, Luce, for your crits.
It's my bedtime now, so I'll return soon. I've read all your suggestions.
Only time to say that 'headlamps' and 'headlights' are synonyms as far as cars are concerned.
Of course workers such as miners use 'headlamps'. My daughter uses them when she treks up into the mountains.
Syl
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Mis temas favoritos The Lord replied, my precious, precious child, I love you and I would never leave you. During your times of trial and suffering, when you see only one set of footprints, it was then that I carried you.
"There is no life higher than the grasstops Or the hearts of sheep, and the wind Pours by like destiny, bending Everything in one direction."
Sylvia Plath, Crossing the Water, Wuthering Heights. Nominate a poem for the InterBoard Poetry Competition by taking into careful consideration those poems you feel would best represent Mosaic Musings. For details, click into the IBPC nomination forum. Did that poem just captivate you? Nominate it for the Faery award today! If perfection of form allured your muse, propose the Crown Jewels award. For more information, click here!MM Award Winner
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Mar 18 16, 19:12
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QUOTE (Psyche @ Mar 18 16, 04:51 ) Thanks a lot, Luce, for your crits.
It's my bedtime now, so I'll return soon. I've read all your suggestions.
Only time to say that 'headlamps' and 'headlights' are synonyms as far as cars are concerned.
Of course workers such as miners use 'headlamps'. My daughter uses them when she treks up into the mountains.
Syl Still, headlights are more commonly used for cars only. It's more precise. Do what you will Syl. You usually do. Oh! No need to come back to explain. I don't need an explanation. It's TOT. It's sufficient that you thanked me for the crit and saw the suggestions. Luce
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Mar 22 16, 00:28
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Thank you, Eisa, Antony, Luce, for your various suggestions.
I've made a revision. Hope it's better now. I don't always follow suggestions entirely, but they certainly inspire me to make my own changes. I think that's often the point of these forums, to push the author into thinking hard!
Syl
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Mis temas favoritos The Lord replied, my precious, precious child, I love you and I would never leave you. During your times of trial and suffering, when you see only one set of footprints, it was then that I carried you.
"There is no life higher than the grasstops Or the hearts of sheep, and the wind Pours by like destiny, bending Everything in one direction."
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Mar 23 16, 22:04
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Good start. Reads a tab better. You may want to change this line though in the next round:
rails brakes shrieks to rail brakes shriek. Rail describes the type of brake.
Luce
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Mar 24 16, 00:54
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Thank you, Luce. Will change to rail. Syl
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Mis temas favoritos The Lord replied, my precious, precious child, I love you and I would never leave you. During your times of trial and suffering, when you see only one set of footprints, it was then that I carried you.
"There is no life higher than the grasstops Or the hearts of sheep, and the wind Pours by like destiny, bending Everything in one direction."
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