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Dec 5 04, 10:19
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Hi all.
I've just created this new poetic form today. I am dubbing it Trois-par-Huit (Three-by-Eight or Octa-Tri). It is a poem containing 8 lines, displayed visually with three stanzas of either tercet, tercet, couplet (3, 3, 2) OR tercet, couplet, tercet (3, 2, 3) as follows;
1. The title is also the final line.
The line length requirements: Line 1 ~ 3 syllables Line 2 ~ 6 syllables Line 3 ~ 9 syllables
Lines 4 & 5 ~ 12 syllables
Line 6 ~ 9 syllables Line 7 ~ 6 syllables Line 8 ~ 3 syllables (is the title and summarizes the meaning of the poem)
The rhyme scheme requirements: Line 1. A Line 2. A Line 3. B Line 4. B Line 5. B Line 6. C Line 7. C Line 8. C
Give it a try!
~Cleo
UPDATE: Daniel has dubbed the form: Trois-par-Huit (Three-by-Eight) and I've just changed the stanza alignment to 3/2/3 as well....
Nature's King
The firs rise touching star-twinkled skies standing vigil o’er evening’s glow
wrapped in sparkling charms of glitter gold, ashen snow embraces kisses of crimson berries below
where silvery cherubs dance and sing …symbols of joy to bring Nature’s King.
© 2004 Lorraine M Kanter
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Dec 8 04, 09:35
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Real Name: Daniel J Ricketts, Sr.
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Referred By:Lori

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Thank you, James.
I assure you that nothing that you said upset me in any way. Both your comments and silence elsewhere convinced me that my attempt at an extremely important subject that I teach almost daily to my clients did NOT communicate seriously at all in the vernacular in which I'd originally composed it. Honestly, I was simply embarrassed by it ( not your comments or request! )... and that some seem to think that I was just trivializing Cleo's form right from the start! Nothing could be further from reality, so I just wanted to remove something that I now see could be interpreted in that way. I'm truly sorry for that, because that could not be further from my intent. I simply dismally failed in my first draft AND stirred things unintentionally. I do hope you see that if I thought "Three-by-Eight" were a trivial form, I certainly wouldn't have gone to the trouble of offering a more accurate title-suggestion for it... or given a partial description of the form with a piece written in its (original) form! I'm afraid that I again stumbled over my own stupid tongue, and believe me, it hurts!
Therefore I thought it best merely to eliminate the first try to at least assuage some inkling of the doubt. I here offer another try. I'm not sure that this accomplishes my goal either, but at least it's in plain standard American speech until the end. I hope that "Suh" is understood as Americana "Sir" and that the variant of pro bono is also acceptible in the vernacular of the closing tercet. "Gonna" among my clients is now a by-word, so it is essential if I'm going to accomplish this in Trois-par-Huit... which I may or may not be able to do. And there aren't many rhyme choices for "Gonna"... so I'm just gonna try again.
So... please be assured that I always appreciate your input, especially when you're right to the point. And know that your words on this were HELPful... not HURTful. Thanks IMMENSELY.
You’re Gonna
Most folks think choice one’s Do ~ choice two’s Wink Wink fogs eyes to plain facts; Do ’s a Must
Bubble-blowing dreams of denial bloom… then bust unmasking horrific harm ‘neath avoidance-dust
You’ll find “…Or Not” won’t work pro bona “Just Do it!” choice warns… “Suh… You’re Gonna!”
© Daniel J Ricketts 08 Dec 2004
P.S. to Cleo:
Honestly, I do like the original tercet, tercet, couplet more. I think it is consistent with introducing a new rhyme in the prior stanza throughout that way. It also give a smidgen of the flavor of the summary couplet of a sonnet.
Of course I bow to your choice, as you see in my offering here... but I'd really be interested in knowing why you made the change in the division. It almost looks to me in the present format that line three's rhyme could be viewed as a mistake. I'll be very interested in discovering what went into your decision... and may I say that I'd love to see you reverse it!
But I ain't arguin'! I love the form, whatever you do with it, and I'd love to be able to play with it (in the serious sense of that word, of course) right along with you.
P.P.S. OOPS!!! I see that I misunderstood your "as well" to mean that that was the change you made as well... namely to 3 2 3, but I see (from seeing now the change in the text ABOVE it, that you've made it optional! I fully agree with that. I'd totally missed the earlier posts by Liz and James, suggesting the option, since I'd returned to the tile after there was a second page, and I continued from there without looking back, except to your initial post.
Reading is a gigantic hurdle for me, Lori. Please forgive my slowness! I'm really trying... and I know that it sometimes makes me trying to folks! I don't even have to try for that to happen, it seems.
Respectfully always. You KNOW that I think you're a writing genius!
Hugs and a sigh, Daniel
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I love your significant variation of a... Dec 6 04, 00:33 Cleo_Serapis Hello Daniel!
That is an excellent suggest... Dec 6 04, 04:44 Jox Ref: MB !-204 AB
Copyright.
To all - NB The sy... Dec 6 04, 07:29 JustDaniel Whew!
I'm so pleased that you took my s... Dec 6 04, 07:52 Cathy
I thought I'd give this a try!
... Dec 6 04, 14:14 Cleo_Serapis QUOTE (Jox @ Dec. 06 2004, 07:29)Ref: MB !-20... Dec 6 04, 19:09 Cleo_Serapis QUOTE (Just Daniel @ Dec. 06 2004, 07:52)Whew... Dec 6 04, 19:11 Cleo_Serapis QUOTE (larrysgirl5548 @ Dec. 06 2004, 14:14) ... Dec 6 04, 19:13 Jox Thanks Lori.
Just thought I'd dabble....
I s... Dec 6 04, 19:22 Cathy Thanks, I've used your suggestions, it really ... Dec 6 04, 23:34 AMETHYST Oh my... This is so wonderful! Lori, you know how ... Dec 7 04, 03:00 AMETHYST Hey Lori,
Would you mind If I spread your name a... Dec 7 04, 03:23 Cleo_Serapis QUOTE (AMETHYST @ Dec. 07 2004, 03:00)Oh my..... Dec 7 04, 05:23 Jox Lori... far from me with forms and all that, but..... Dec 7 04, 06:20 Cleo_Serapis QUOTE (Jox @ Dec. 07 2004, 06:20)Lori... far ... Dec 7 04, 06:22 Cleo_Serapis QUOTE (AMETHYST @ Dec. 07 2004, 03:23)Hey Lor... Dec 7 04, 12:38 Jox Hi Daniel,
Sorry! I've tried really hard ... Dec 7 04, 19:22 AMETHYST QUOTE Posted on Dec. 07 2004, 14:01
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I popped back here looking f... Dec 8 04, 03:08 Jox Hi Daniel,
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Me eyes is a-waterin here!
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A Kin... Sep 9 05, 05:13 AMETHYST Thanks Lori,
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Starting out
a new; no ounce of dou... Oct 11 05, 20:37 Cleo_Serapis QUOTE (AMETHYST @ Oct. 11 2005, 21:12)Thanks ... Oct 18 05, 16:54 Cleo_Serapis QUOTE (AMETHYST @ Oct. 11 2005, 21:37)
A Bla... Oct 18 05, 16:56 AMETHYST Hey Lori,
Good suggestion! I will either go with... Oct 21 05, 21:27 AMETHYST QUOTE (Cleo_Serapis @ Oct. 18 2005, 17:56)QUO... Oct 21 05, 21:53 Cleo_Serapis Hi Liz.
I think I like this version a tad more of... Oct 22 05, 08:07 Cleo_Serapis You could also say:
What keeps me
here is securit... Oct 22 05, 08:08 AMETHYST Hey Lori, I rather like this one most too. With pe... Oct 22 05, 16:19 Cleo_Serapis Yes - I this latest one Liz.
Well done!
~Cleo Oct 22 05, 17:10 AMETHYST Thanks Lori.
:sun: You brighten my ... Oct 22 05, 21:20 Cleo_Serapis Hi Liz. :sun:
Thanks so much! It's now the... Oct 23 05, 06:38 AMETHYST Hurricane
'Swoooshing' sounds
surround us; rain... Oct 25 05, 17:41 Cleo_Serapis Your Hurricane 3x8 Liz!
You have such a knack fo... Oct 25 05, 19:42 AMETHYST THank you Lori,
It is a wonderful form of poetry... Oct 30 05, 09:50 AMETHYST The silence
is more a consequence
of what has been... Nov 5 05, 23:30 Cleo_Serapis These are such poignant pieces Liz.
Each has it... Nov 7 05, 06:28 Cleo_Serapis OK Rellie...
I've just written another one to... Nov 13 05, 14:52 AMETHYST Hey Lori,
Absolutely divine! The message is some... Nov 13 05, 15:08 AMETHYST These 3 final lines could be a poem within themsel... Nov 13 05, 15:12 Cleo_Serapis QUOTE (AMETHYST @ Nov. 13 2005, 15:08)Hey Lor... Nov 13 05, 15:28 AMETHYST A new Day
I believe;
that stars are quite naive
a... Nov 20 05, 16:24 Cleo_Serapis Breathtakingly beautious Liz!
This is so lovely ... Nov 20 05, 16:35 AMETHYST QUOTE (Cleo_Serapis @ Nov. 20 2005, 16:35)Bre... Nov 20 05, 18:27 Cleo_Serapis Liz.
Your chapbook title is perfect!
You've i... Nov 24 05, 08:43 AMETHYST Hey Lori,
Oh I am spending next Christmas with y... Dec 5 05, 21:42 Cleo_Serapis Liz - this is so beautiful - you've got the rhyme ... Dec 6 05, 06:28 JustDaniel Note: Subsequent to posting this, I realized that ... Dec 23 05, 10:21 JustDaniel distracted
one more day
ere I will taste cool spr... Sep 14 06, 13:38  Cleo_Serapis QUOTE (JustDaniel @ Sep 14 06, 14:38 ) di... Sep 15 06, 05:35 JustDaniel Point taken, Lori. I've posted a revision..... Sep 15 06, 06:51 Cleo_Serapis Here's an interesting thread I just found by g... Oct 21 07, 20:29 Sekhmet Hi Cleo - here is my five minute verse - I am alwa... Nov 19 09, 03:52 Cleo_Serapis Very interesting observation, Leo. I don't act... Nov 19 09, 08:53 Larry Saw this and thought I'd try my hand at one. ... Mar 13 15, 15:07  Cleo_Serapis OOOh Hi Larry!
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Once upon
a time before t... Mar 15 15, 04:50 Larry So Confess
Daniel did,
but I suspect he hid
his a... Mar 15 15, 13:40 Larry Thanks Lori,
I did try your "Quarte-par-Huit... Apr 14 15, 14:05
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