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Oct 11 03, 03:00
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FIRST REVISION
THE FLAME
Between first meeting and our last goodbye, are days in which I’ll tend my most true flame, that it may neither sear your loving face with its white heat, nor by neglect or my inconstancy leave you cold. In love’s name let my gentle fire live in your embrace.
Love is not love, that uncontrolled, consumes its source of fuel with jealousy and greed, nor unattended, chokes with noxious fumes the loving heart on which it needs must feed.
So like the crucible, which holds the gold protected from the furnace blast – I will, with tender warmth, your treasured love enfold until your need of me it quiet and still.
"All rights reserved by Grace Galton as an unpublished work."
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Oct 11 03, 05:25
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Hi Grace...
Does he like it? He should!
Between first meeting and our last goodbye, are days in which I’ll tend my most true flame, that it may neither sear your loving face with its white heat, nor by neglect or my inconstancy leave you cold.
I understand this but I wonder if you might have incorporated a reference to it actually not being allowed to dim? Here it almost indicates that a flame might leave him cold. Just a thought; after all, I did understnd it so it may be ok.
In love’s name let my gentle fire live in your embrace. Love is not love, that uncontrolled, consumes its source of fuel with jealousy and greed, nor unattended, chokes with noxious fumes the loving heart on which it needs must feed.
Maybe feeding on a heart gives the wrong impression? Maybe something like sustained by a heart or powered?
So like the crucible, which holds the gold protected from the furnace blast – I will with tender warmth, your treasured love enfold until your need of me it quiet and still.
An excellent poem and I know that my suggestions would cause structural problems so it might be better to leave it as it is. However, something to think on't.
I bet Ralph's rite chuffed, lass!
Yours in warmth, too, J.
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Oct 11 03, 05:49
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Hello Grace.
There are so many beautiful lines here that it would be a shame to edit any of them without altering the meaning which flows through your poem. I notice though, that you labelled it a sonnet? A sonnet is a specicfic poetry form, written in iambic pentameter. It has a proposition of 8 lines and a volta of 6. It also has a fixed rhyme scheme, depending on whether it's Petrarchan, Shakespearean or Spencerian. Here's the sort of thing old Will might have written. Purely the proposition. Something like
Between first meeting and our last goodbye, are days in which I’ll tend my most true flame, that it may neither sear your loving eye with heat, nor leave you cold within love’s name
Nor by neglect or my inconstancy shall gentle fires expire in your embrace. Love is not love, when fervent jealousy consumes itself in Envy’s carapace
A.
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Oct 11 03, 06:03
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Greetings O Great One 
You are quite right of course Akh. This is not a true representation of a sonnet (except in line form).
My only defence is that I wrote this many, many years ago in the first throes of love (still burning brightly) for Ralph.
At that time, I knew nothing about verse form and the rules of poetry, I wrote this purely as my heart dictated it. (God, that sounds so cheesy, but I can't help it - and will not defend it). That is how I felt but more importantly that is what I wanted him to know. It still holds true, even now.
I love your version Akh, such a talent to come back with this so quickly. Your is very Will S (my idol)
Love
Grace
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Oct 11 03, 09:12
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Hello James,
QUOTE Hi Grace...
Does he like it? He should!
Between first meeting and our last goodbye, are days in which I’ll tend my most true flame, that it may neither sear your loving face with its white heat, nor by neglect or my inconstancy leave you cold.
I understand this but I wonder if you might have incorporated a reference to it actually not being allowed to dim? Here it almost indicates that a flame might leave him cold. Just a thought; after all, I did understnd it so it may be ok.
It's strange James, but I find this hard to analyze now. What this is meant to convey is that I intend not too be either possessive or neglectful.
In love’s name let my gentle fire live in your embrace. Love is not love, that uncontrolled, consumes its source of fuel with jealousy and greed, nor unattended, chokes with noxious fumes the loving heart on which it needs must feed.
Maybe feeding on a heart gives the wrong impression? Maybe something like sustained by a heart or powered?
I think I was trying to say that I would neither suffocate him with love nor ever be indifferent to him either. See for more explanation my reply to Akh James.
So like the crucible, which holds the gold protected from the furnace blast – I will with tender warmth, your treasured love enfold until your need of me it quiet and still.
An excellent poem and I know that my suggestions would cause structural problems so it might be better to leave it as it is. However, something to think on't.
I bet Ralph's rite chuffed, lass
Yours in warmth, too, J.
And yes, he did like the poem James. I have never been tempted to write another since I have said all I wished to say in this one.
Love Grace
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Oct 11 03, 10:24
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Hi Grace.
This is a beautiful poem, expressing the noblest and purest aspects that love is. I thoroughly enjoyed.
My only suggestion is a stanza break:
Between first meeting and our last goodbye, are days in which I’ll tend my most true flame, that it may neither sear your loving face with its white heat, nor by neglect or my inconstancy leave you cold. In love’s name let my gentle fire live in your embrace.>>>stanza break here
Love is not love, that uncontrolled, consumes its source of fuel with jealousy and greed, nor unattended, chokes with noxious fumes the loving heart on which it needs must feed.
So like the crucible, which holds the gold protected from the furnace blast – I will with tender warmth, your treasured love enfold until your need of me it quiet and still.
It warms my own heart to know that you've found/given such love and it has lasted a years. You are both lucky. May it always be.
Straight from the heart - beautiful writing!
Michelle
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Oct 11 03, 10:56
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QUOTE Hi Grace.
This is a beautiful poem, expressing the noblest and purest aspects that love is. I thoroughly enjoyed.
My only suggestion is a stanza break:
Between first meeting and our last goodbye, are days in which I’ll tend my most true flame, that it may neither sear your loving face with its white heat, nor by neglect or my inconstancy leave you cold. In love’s name let my gentle fire live in your embrace.>>>stanza break here
Love is not love, that uncontrolled, consumes its source of fuel with jealousy and greed, nor unattended, chokes with noxious fumes the loving heart on which it needs must feed.
So like the crucible, which holds the gold protected from the furnace blast – I will with tender warmth, your treasured love enfold until your need of me it quiet and still.
It warms my own heart to know that you've found/given such love and it has lasted a years. You are both lucky. May it always be.
Straight from the heart - beautiful writing!
Michelle
Hello Michelle, I am very pleased that you like this.
Since this is not a true sonnet I think your suggestion is very valid and I have revised it thus.
I really didn't know whether to post it or not because it is so very personal, but then I thought, I might as well know if I had written it properly all those years ago.
Thank you for reading it. I have a new reward for anyone reading my pieces. Here it is. HAVE A FISH Now look after him mind!
Love
Grace :farmer:
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Oct 11 03, 19:03
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hi grace,
such a beautiful poem exuding such love and warmth. i'm so glad to know that there is such a thing as true love lasting.
i only have a couple of punctuation questions with the last stanza:
QUOTE So like the crucible, which holds the gold protected from the furnace blast – I will maybe a comma here with tender warmth, your treasured love enfold until your need of me it quieti think it needs to be plural here, so add an "s" here and stilland an "s" here.
lovely poem, grace!
deb
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Oct 12 03, 01:53
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