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Alan
post Apr 7 12, 18:28
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Western decadence
mixing nature, peopl, things
or failed memory

Alan

Larry, I will never remember which is which, can we assume this thread covers both, please ?

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Larry
post Apr 8 12, 00:37
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Trees and flowers stand
upon their ancestors corpse.
Roots are nature's thread.




Alan, there is a Senyru thread but nothing has been posted there since Daniel's last post in Sept. '07.


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post Apr 8 12, 02:14
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GUILT LILY

Roots are nature's thread
if peroxide-modified
art's poor enhancement

Alan

Larry, my point is that I get 5-7-5, but I'll never remember content requirements


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post Apr 8 12, 08:25
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Enhancing nature
to please evanescent eyes
defeats its purpose.




Alan, perhaps by merging the two, you might call that subsequent product Senry-ku. I don't want to be overly pedantic but I believe these forums are here to educate and widen the scope of knowledge for those who participate. In doing so, we may all improve upon our capabilities, creativity and skills. Haiku, literally translated, means "amusement sentence". Thus, we write about the amusing or interesting aspects of nature and man's interaction which may or may not have been obvious before reading another person's viewpoint. Senryu is translated as "river willow" and carries the name of it's originator, Senryu Karai. You may, of course, write them however you wish because the differences brought about by westerners trying to emulate the Japanese masters have caused them both to blur into indistinguishable oneness. This, I feel, has deminished both the aspect and impact of their "AWE" moments.


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post Apr 8 12, 09:44
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Dear Larry,

Problem is I no longer function very well at say paperwork, keeping to forms, or anything that needs organizational mind-power. As I prefer 5-7-5, alto I know it is out of fashion, I can remember that. Otherwise I do agree with your statement, just can't keep up any more.

I still have the sharpness with words, and I hope some skill in expressing thoughts tho.

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Defeat its purpose
by agreeing with it all;
nature cannot shock

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post Apr 8 12, 14:26
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darkness at noon
with lightning and thunder...
shock and awe


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post Apr 8 12, 16:59
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A shock at dawn -
the sun failed to come up
electrics obscured ....

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post Apr 9 12, 07:35
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Hey, Alan, that's three separate snapshots rather than the expected TWO (One in one line and the other in two, usually; one snap short, the other snap long -- two perspectives of the same AHA moment)


one long vine
with three interwoven strands --
move over, Tarzan!


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post Apr 9 12, 14:05
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Dear Daniel,

No, only two :

A shock at dawn
the sun failed to come up; --- one concept
electrics obscured .... --- the reason

Move over;
bargain hunter
shoots first

No ?

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post Apr 9 12, 14:30
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QUOTE (Alan @ Apr 9 12, 15:05 ) *
Dear Daniel,

No, only two :

A shock at dawn
the sun failed to come up; --- one concept

Yes, one CONCEPT, but two 'semi'-statements...
Maybe something like:

shock at dawn
as the sun fails to rise;


electrics obscured .... --- the reason

... and I don't understand what "electrics' is that caused the sun not to rise??


Move over;
bargain hunter
shoots first

No ?

Love
Alan

Now you have a very apt SENRYU, methinks. Why don't you post it over in that thread!! There's nothing seasonal or natural [ haiku characteristic ]in these snapshots, but they're certainly a page out of human nature!

deLightingly, Daniel
sun.gif


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post Apr 9 12, 17:04
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Dear Daniel,

The electrics are all the light pollution the earth streams out, so bad it has come to obscure the sun.

A slight exaggeration, of course !

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post Apr 11 12, 07:29
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pollution taints
the light from its source...
oh, what a sunset!


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post Apr 11 12, 08:43
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These dirty sunsets
make pollution so worthwhile;
regret's for later

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post Apr 11 12, 09:55
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violets litter
the shade with beauty;
whisper of sunlight


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post Apr 12 12, 16:35
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Beautiful, Daniel.

whispers of sunlight
bring frequent April showers
into stark relief

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post Apr 13 12, 09:41
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In darkness, new leaves
give life and balance nature.
Fresh air from poison


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post Apr 13 12, 16:04
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Fresh air in prison
therefore we must be near spring;
high time to be sprung

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post Apr 14 12, 09:47
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QUOTE (Larry @ Apr 13 12, 10:41 ) *
In darkness, new leaves
give life and balance nature.
Fresh air from poison

Excellent, Larry...

but you might make your second line more of a DEMONSTRATION rather than a STATEMENT... and remember also not to use CAPITALS, and usually no PERIODS either. Just a form thing, you know, remembering please that I'm no expert here! ... but a perhaps:

in darkness, new leaves
spring green against the brown -
fresh air from poison


deLighting in your observations, Daniel sun.gif


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post Apr 14 12, 09:59
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QUOTE (Alan @ Apr 13 12, 17:04 ) *
Fresh air in prison
therefore we must be near spring;
high time to be sprung


Besides the Capital F, you've done another good ku, Alan... but you're making a statement rather than an observation, from my perspective. How about something in the direction of:

fresh air in prison
yard whispers to leave;
high time to spring



high in the spring
its bubbles explode...
fresh H2O


sipping the freshness Lightly, Daniel sun.gif


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post Apr 16 12, 12:31
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fresh water, not coke
marks out the true poet
not sugary verse

Alan

So OK OK OK, it's a senryu ! But also a damn good riposte !



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