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Alan
post Jan 5 11, 06:44
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THE BLACK WIDOW WHO LOVES YOU

Your life is like a black widow spider,
for it grabs you, gives you great games to play;
optimism-filled, you blossom and thrive,
- as it worms itself deep in, to your blood.

First life loves, making horizons wider,
thrilling with hope, even bite-size glory;
dynamism filled, you have lots of drive;
- life’s trickle changes in to raging flood.

Yet sometime, when you’re truly its captive,
like bird, or alien monster, it strikes :
paying life’s bill, you’re devoured alive :
you come down, in to earth, with a thud ....

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Larry
post Jan 10 11, 17:52
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Hi Alan,

Ain't it the truth! Life usually does (at one time or another) come up and bite you on the ass.

Didn't know if you wanted nits/crits so I'll ask first.

Very interesting analogy you have used in your premise. Never thought of life that way before.

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post Jan 11 11, 02:09
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Dear Larry,

Thank you, yes, I had an epiphany with that idea as well !

You are always so precise with your comments and crits, yes please.

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post Jan 14 11, 17:03
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Hey Alan,

I finally got back to this thread. I've been working on my new Villanelle I told you about and wanted to get it posted before the week ran out on me.

First of all, let me ask - "Is this written in Trochaic IP?" If it is, never mind my first nit. Sometimes I find it hard to discern the meter used because of my "Suthun' Drawl".

Secondly, I was thrown by your rhyme scheme. I get abcd, aecd, fgcd.

Let me know if I'm way off base, okay. As always, take or toss.

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post Jan 14 11, 17:07
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Dear Larry,

Yes, rhyme scheme is as you say. As to whether trochaic, I have no idea. I read the poem aloud to catch any glitsches, the tongue cannot go where the eye has glibly been.

Are you saying the rhyme sch does not work ? Does it haul you up to ponder ? And would this be the case if you were not so knowkedgable on forms and such ?

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post Jan 14 11, 17:30
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Hi Alan,

The reason I asked about trochaic or not (pardon the "Trochaic IP" in the former post - that is an oxymoron. Can't be Tro and Iamb at the same time.) is not knowing how the author wishes to stress what syl. I had to read it a few times to (hopefully) ascertain your intent.

The rhyme scheme doesn't bother me; more like suprises me because it wasn't what I expected. It definitely hauls me up to ponder both your intent and the poems message.

You are also correct in the statement about my being a bit of a "meter maid" and a card carrying member of the "form police". Please pardon me for those minor flaws in my otherwise exemplary character.

Larry



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post Jan 15 11, 01:38
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Dear Larry,

I hope my stating about your form knowledge was not taken as crit ! It is something I lack, except for vills and triolets. As for meter eyc, I go by instinct and how it reads, esp aloud.

I thought I would put the stresses in to see if we agree here :

Your life is like a black widow spider,
for it grabs you, gives you great games to play;
optimism-filled, you blossom and thrive,
- as it worms itself deep in, to your blood.

First life loves, making horizons wider,
thrilling with hope, even bite-size glory;
dynamism filled, you have lots of drive;
- life’s trickle changes in to raging flood.

Yet sometime, when you’re truly its captive,
like bird, or alien monster, it strikes :
paying life’s bill, you’re devoured alive :
you come down, in to earth, with a thud ....

Now, you'll be relieved to know, even I can see the irregularities, perhaps I am going by beats rather than sylls ? You might also be pleased to know that I had to amend what I thought was stressed when I tried to read the result in preview !

So tell me, do my stresses make sense ? And, if so, are they so unnatural that they give the reader a problem ? I feel I might well learn something here ....

Love
Alan


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post Jan 17 11, 14:28
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Hi Alan,

I'm working on the crit/suggestions/synopsis of your poem. Not to change the meaning but for clarity of meter. I went through a few of the lines you posted with your stressed/unstressed emphasis noted. Although you missed a few syls in "optimism" (4) and "horizons" (3), I get the gist of how you read it aloud. It will take some time to go through the whole poem metrically but on first glance, I found that you ran the gamut from Iambic to Pyrrhic. If that was your intent (to utilize all metric forms), kudos... if not, I might have to beg some assistance from Merlin or Daniel.

To give you an example:

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Your life is like a black widow spider


"Your life is like a black" - Iambic
"black widow" - Dactylic or "widow spider" - Anapestic; but "spider" could be construed to be Trochaic.

Hope you can see what I mean. I don't want to sound pedantic (but I probably do sound that way.)

I should probably leave it alone and let your poem stand as it is written. Wouldn't hurt a bit. Please don't take upbrage with my trying to help. I mean no disrespect for your poem. It carries an excellent "Life Lesson" no matter how it is read.

Larry


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When power leads man toward arrogance, poetry reminds him of his limitations. When power narrows the areas of man's concern, poetry reminds him of the richness and diversity of his existence. When power corrupts, poetry cleanses.
John Fitzgerald Kennedy



Kindness is a seed sown by the gentlest hand, growing care's flowers.
Larry D. Jennings

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Alan
post Jan 17 11, 16:19
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Dear Larry,

Helpful crit such as you always offer is not something to take um at ! So no nee to worry.

Have to confess I don't even know what those poetic terms mean, as I say. I go by reading alour to see if it flows.

And as you say, none the worse for that !

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