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Jan 5 11, 06:44
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THE BLACK WIDOW WHO LOVES YOU
Your life is like a black widow spider, for it grabs you, gives you great games to play; optimism-filled, you blossom and thrive, - as it worms itself deep in, to your blood.
First life loves, making horizons wider, thrilling with hope, even bite-size glory; dynamism filled, you have lots of drive; - life’s trickle changes in to raging flood.
Yet sometime, when you’re truly its captive, like bird, or alien monster, it strikes : paying life’s bill, you’re devoured alive : you come down, in to earth, with a thud ....
Alan McAlpine Douglas
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Jan 10 11, 17:52
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Hi Alan,
Ain't it the truth! Life usually does (at one time or another) come up and bite you on the ass.
Didn't know if you wanted nits/crits so I'll ask first.
Very interesting analogy you have used in your premise. Never thought of life that way before.
Larry
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Jan 11 11, 02:09
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Dear Larry,
Thank you, yes, I had an epiphany with that idea as well !
You are always so precise with your comments and crits, yes please.
Love Alan
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Jan 14 11, 17:03
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Hey Alan,
I finally got back to this thread. I've been working on my new Villanelle I told you about and wanted to get it posted before the week ran out on me.
First of all, let me ask - "Is this written in Trochaic IP?" If it is, never mind my first nit. Sometimes I find it hard to discern the meter used because of my "Suthun' Drawl".
Secondly, I was thrown by your rhyme scheme. I get abcd, aecd, fgcd.
Let me know if I'm way off base, okay. As always, take or toss.
Larry
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Jan 14 11, 17:07
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Dear Larry,
Yes, rhyme scheme is as you say. As to whether trochaic, I have no idea. I read the poem aloud to catch any glitsches, the tongue cannot go where the eye has glibly been.
Are you saying the rhyme sch does not work ? Does it haul you up to ponder ? And would this be the case if you were not so knowkedgable on forms and such ?
Love Alan
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Jan 14 11, 17:30
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Hi Alan,
The reason I asked about trochaic or not (pardon the "Trochaic IP" in the former post - that is an oxymoron. Can't be Tro and Iamb at the same time.) is not knowing how the author wishes to stress what syl. I had to read it a few times to (hopefully) ascertain your intent.
The rhyme scheme doesn't bother me; more like suprises me because it wasn't what I expected. It definitely hauls me up to ponder both your intent and the poems message.
You are also correct in the statement about my being a bit of a "meter maid" and a card carrying member of the "form police". Please pardon me for those minor flaws in my otherwise exemplary character.
Larry
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Jan 15 11, 01:38
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Dear Larry,
I hope my stating about your form knowledge was not taken as crit ! It is something I lack, except for vills and triolets. As for meter eyc, I go by instinct and how it reads, esp aloud.
I thought I would put the stresses in to see if we agree here :
Your life is like a black widow spider, for it grabs you, gives you great games to play; optimism-filled, you blossom and thrive, - as it worms itself deep in, to your blood.
First life loves, making horizons wider, thrilling with hope, even bite-size glory; dynamism filled, you have lots of drive; - life’s trickle changes in to raging flood.
Yet sometime, when you’re truly its captive, like bird, or alien monster, it strikes : paying life’s bill, you’re devoured alive : you come down, in to earth, with a thud ....
Now, you'll be relieved to know, even I can see the irregularities, perhaps I am going by beats rather than sylls ? You might also be pleased to know that I had to amend what I thought was stressed when I tried to read the result in preview !
So tell me, do my stresses make sense ? And, if so, are they so unnatural that they give the reader a problem ? I feel I might well learn something here ....
Love Alan
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Jan 17 11, 14:28
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Hi Alan, I'm working on the crit/suggestions/synopsis of your poem. Not to change the meaning but for clarity of meter. I went through a few of the lines you posted with your stressed/unstressed emphasis noted. Although you missed a few syls in "optimism" (4) and "horizons" (3), I get the gist of how you read it aloud. It will take some time to go through the whole poem metrically but on first glance, I found that you ran the gamut from Iambic to Pyrrhic. If that was your intent ( to utilize all metric forms), kudos... if not, I might have to beg some assistance from Merlin or Daniel. To give you an example: QUOTE Your life is like a black widow spider "Your life is like a black" - Iambic " black widow" - Dactylic or "widow spider" - Anapestic; but " spider" could be construed to be Trochaic. Hope you can see what I mean. I don't want to sound pedantic (but I probably do sound that way.) I should probably leave it alone and let your poem stand as it is written. Wouldn't hurt a bit. Please don't take upbrage with my trying to help. I mean no disrespect for your poem. It carries an excellent "Life Lesson" no matter how it is read. Larry
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Jan 17 11, 16:19
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Dear Larry,
Helpful crit such as you always offer is not something to take um at ! So no nee to worry.
Have to confess I don't even know what those poetic terms mean, as I say. I go by reading alour to see if it flows.
And as you say, none the worse for that !
Love Alan
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