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post Jan 15 05, 13:08
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James

You are most welcome

Nina
 
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post Jan 18 05, 13:03
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John good to meet you - I'll say Hello properly over in your poem, which I'm off to crit after replying to this and fetching a cuppa.

Thank you very much for popping in and commenting.

This piece did make me chuckle.  I'm something of a fan of humour that subverts convention, and while I'm not unfamiliar with the idea of arming prey, I thought this was fresh way of approaching the subject.

Thank you very much. I intended it as a jocular piece until the end, though not humorous per se. Nevertheless, quite a few critics have said it is humorous so be it. I didn't think I'd see prey armed before but Nina highlighted another poem which did it and, now I think more, most Tom & Jerry cartoons do it too.

>>I was slightly confused to begin with as to why hunters would shout "Pheasant!" like that, but that fell into place once I realised it was one nasty pheasant they were dealing with.  

Well, I thought of the pheasant as exercising pro-active self -defence (you know the sort of thing - Let's invade Iraq because they must have WMD aimed at us, which can be activated in 45 mins etc). But, of course, in the hunters' case, they were actually out hunting pheasant...  the alert was meant to work t'other way too - a shout so they could aim their guns and not miss an opportunity. I should have called the pheasant “Blair.” Then again, I respect and agree with the pheasant’s motives.

>>As for my own views, I too disagree with hunting purely for sport.  However, the majority of the hunters I have met/chatted with are bowhunters in the US, and they have a strong ethical sense of the responsibilities of hunting (they only hunt what they're going to eat, they take great care to kill as quickly as possible, etc.).  I have no problem with the fact that they also derive pleasure from the experience of pitting their stealth against the senses of their quarry.

I would exclude hunting for food from my criticism. If we are to be a meat-eating species - and that does not seem unreasonable, many species are - then the most humane kill is best. Leaving the birds in the wild and fast-killing seems the best way to me... then again, I'm not being targeted.

My contention was that killing for sport, in my opinion, is wrong (e.g. fox hunting and pheasant hunting for sport etc). I have no comment to make on the pleasure hunters take  - ok, I have; I find it an unpleasant base instinct - but that doesn't matter. These people need to eat (especially after a long day hunting!) so whatever else they derive from it is of no matter to me, nor to the murdered birds.

In actual fact, I am more guilty of harming animals than your bowhunter friends - because I eat meat killed at abattoirs. I eat meat which is intensively farmed. These must be bigger crimes. So it is better that the hunters kill their food quickly in the wild. I feel I ought to address mass farming and the mass slaughter which puts meat in our stomachs, too - but poems etc tend to creep up on me and that topic hasn’t... yet.

>>Anyway, I'm somewhat off topic now, so I'll close.

No more so than most people here - me included. We do need to focus on each other’s work - but I feel you’ve done very well here - especially by addressing the meaning of my poem. You (and some others) have taken slightly different meanings to the ones I intended in parts - which I always find fascinating. Different people do bring different interpretations - I really like that aspect of art.

Thank you very much John. Most interesting. After that cuppa, I’ll be across to look at your first post. Cheerio now,

James.
 
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- Nina   The Pheasant   Jan 15 05, 13:08
- - Nina   Hi James My post obviously didn't come across...   Jan 15 05, 12:26
- - Jox   Hi Nina, Thanks again for popping back and sticki...   Jan 15 05, 12:50
- - Jox   You're very kind, Nina, Thank you very much.   Jan 15 05, 13:44
- - Jox   © James Oxenholme, 2005. I, James Oxenholme, do as...   Jan 9 05, 18:44
- - JLY   James, this seems like some kind of reversal of fo...   Jan 10 05, 06:55
- - Toumai   Hi, James, I can usually throw myself off the ed...   Jan 10 05, 06:58
- - Jox   Hi John and Fran, Thank you both for commenting. ...   Jan 10 05, 07:24
- - Toumai   Hi James, I was definitely missing the intention....   Jan 10 05, 07:43
- - Jox   Hi Fran, thanks for your reply and sorry to make y...   Jan 10 05, 07:50
- - Cathy   Hi James! I think you have a very valid compl...   Jan 10 05, 09:21
- - Jox   Cathy, Hi... thank you very much - very helpful. ...   Jan 10 05, 09:35
- - Cathy   Others may not see it that way James.  Maybe ...   Jan 10 05, 12:10
- - Jox   Cathy, I've already lost my "MM Minimalist" cr...   Jan 10 05, 12:27
- - jgdittier   Dear James, I'm still new here at least in my ...   Jan 12 05, 15:03
- - Jox   Hi Ron, Thank you very much for your interest an...   Jan 12 05, 16:31
- - Nina   Hi James I read your poem a couple of days ago, w...   Jan 12 05, 16:39
- - Jox   Nina, Hello and thank you. Thanks also for taking...   Jan 12 05, 17:18
- - jgdittier   Dear Jox, From my point of view, in depth discussi...   Jan 13 05, 10:42
- - jgdittier   Dear James, For an example of a "think piece" fail...   Jan 13 05, 11:08
- - Nina   Hi James On the other hand, how do the repressed ...   Jan 13 05, 18:33
- - Jox   Hi Nina, thanks for re-visiting. To be trivial fo...   Jan 15 05, 05:54
- - JohnK   James, This piece did make me chuckle.  I...   Jan 18 05, 10:25
- - JohnK   Hello James, and apologies for the delay in replyi...   Jan 20 05, 17:23
- - Jox   Hi John. I think we've come to various agreem...   Jan 20 05, 17:37
- - Cleo_Serapis   CONGRATS Jox on your Wizard Award winning tile! ...   Jan 23 05, 09:41
- - Nina   Hi James congratulations on your wizard award. ...   Jan 23 05, 09:53
- - Jox   Lori & Nina, Thank you both very much indeed. Ni...   Jan 23 05, 13:23
- - Toumai   Hi James, A wonderfully thought-provoking piece; ...   Jan 23 05, 14:40
- - Jox   Fran, Thank you very much - you comments mean muc...   Jan 23 05, 15:21
- - Psyche   Hi James ! I love the idea of your poem, but ...   Jan 31 05, 10:47
- - Jox   Hi Sylvia, Thank you very much for your visit and...   Jan 31 05, 12:21
- - Psyche   Hi James ! That was a long doorbell ring. Glad...   Jan 31 05, 18:01
- - Jox   Hi Sylvia... That was a long doorbell ring. More...   Jan 31 05, 18:45
- - Psyche   Me again ! No, you've depressed me even mo...   Jan 31 05, 19:41
- - Jox   Hi Sylvia, Sorry to have depressed you more - not...   Jan 31 05, 20:20
- - Toumai   Hi James, Sylvia, I don't think you're of...   Jan 31 05, 23:44
- - Jox   Hi Fran, Thanks for popping back. Neither of you ...   Feb 1 05, 06:00
- - Nina   Hi James I have been trying to catch up on this f...   Feb 1 05, 16:28
- - Jox   Hi Nina, Good to see you back; thank you. >>I ha...   Feb 1 05, 21:07

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