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post Jan 15 05, 13:08
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post Jan 12 05, 16:31
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Hi Ron,

Thank you very much for your interest and comments.

I do (try to) write humour poems - e.g. "Donkeys Cheat At Cards," which I see as humour with no deeper meaning. Then again...

I am certainly not saying that others find my efforts funny but - in general - I think humour can be achieved in any form of writing - even academic papers (sometimes).

My overall target is not really any one group - it is power-bases of mankind - where that power is abused. Now, I judge what abuse is because this is my mind's output. But I'm always happy to argue my corner. In this poem I suppose I am "targeting" sports shooters. However, it may be in every other respect they are decent people and much better than I. So it is really we humans who need to be held to account - and that does include me (at least the last time I looked in the mirror!) (That was an attempt at self-deprecating humour :) )

>>"To you, I believe such a topic coming from deep conviction requires
either additional poetic expression to assure that the reader interprets it properly or suitable footnotes."

This troubles me a bit and for two reasons.

Yes, I do use footnotes - sometimes very extensive. But usually to explain references which would take ages to look-up. I try not to use footnotes to explain the meaning of a poem. I will always explain to critics what I meant if they ask, though. However, I rather think the poem is failing if I need to explain the meaning per se.

Secondly, I do expect the reader to bring something to a poem - their own mind. Therefore, I am not comfortable with "a proper interpretation." If an interpretation is required that is up to the interpreter (i.e. the reader) - what you suggest is not the flexibility of interpretation, it is a rigid prescription, is it not? Once I have created the poem with a certain meaning in mind, it is interesting to see the various interpretations which people make. If you took it to be humorous (albeit a failed attempt at) that is interesting, too. Cathy did suggest it was a little too over that side for my meaning and I think you make a similar point. I may adjust it, then.. but to be honest I never find anything with guns in to be funny. I utterly hate them. So I do have a philosophical problem there. For me, guns always mean serious. I shall have to think on that.

On this point, if you return, might you please tell me what additional poetic expression you had in mind? (I’m stumped on that one). Thanks in advance.

>>On second thought, if we all stay friends, my typing finger has been unnecessarily stressed.

emm you’ve lost me here, sorry Ron. Your typing was not wasted; I appreciated your comments but that is not mutually exclusive with us remaining friends, is it? I would have thought that if you were willing to take the trouble to comment as you have, that was a very friendly and helpful act - and I’m grateful. Thank you.

All the best, James.
 
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- Nina   The Pheasant   Jan 15 05, 13:08
- - Nina   Hi James My post obviously didn't come across...   Jan 15 05, 12:26
- - Jox   Hi Nina, Thanks again for popping back and sticki...   Jan 15 05, 12:50
- - Jox   You're very kind, Nina, Thank you very much.   Jan 15 05, 13:44
- - Jox   © James Oxenholme, 2005. I, James Oxenholme, do as...   Jan 9 05, 18:44
- - JLY   James, this seems like some kind of reversal of fo...   Jan 10 05, 06:55
- - Toumai   Hi, James, I can usually throw myself off the ed...   Jan 10 05, 06:58
- - Jox   Hi John and Fran, Thank you both for commenting. ...   Jan 10 05, 07:24
- - Toumai   Hi James, I was definitely missing the intention....   Jan 10 05, 07:43
- - Jox   Hi Fran, thanks for your reply and sorry to make y...   Jan 10 05, 07:50
- - Cathy   Hi James! I think you have a very valid compl...   Jan 10 05, 09:21
- - Jox   Cathy, Hi... thank you very much - very helpful. ...   Jan 10 05, 09:35
- - Cathy   Others may not see it that way James.  Maybe ...   Jan 10 05, 12:10
- - Jox   Cathy, I've already lost my "MM Minimalist" cr...   Jan 10 05, 12:27
- - jgdittier   Dear James, I'm still new here at least in my ...   Jan 12 05, 15:03
- - Nina   Hi James I read your poem a couple of days ago, w...   Jan 12 05, 16:39
- - Jox   Nina, Hello and thank you. Thanks also for taking...   Jan 12 05, 17:18
- - jgdittier   Dear Jox, From my point of view, in depth discussi...   Jan 13 05, 10:42
- - jgdittier   Dear James, For an example of a "think piece" fail...   Jan 13 05, 11:08
- - Nina   Hi James On the other hand, how do the repressed ...   Jan 13 05, 18:33
- - Jox   Hi Nina, thanks for re-visiting. To be trivial fo...   Jan 15 05, 05:54
- - JohnK   James, This piece did make me chuckle.  I...   Jan 18 05, 10:25
- - Jox   John good to meet you - I'll say Hello properl...   Jan 18 05, 13:03
- - JohnK   Hello James, and apologies for the delay in replyi...   Jan 20 05, 17:23
- - Jox   Hi John. I think we've come to various agreem...   Jan 20 05, 17:37
- - Cleo_Serapis   CONGRATS Jox on your Wizard Award winning tile! ...   Jan 23 05, 09:41
- - Nina   Hi James congratulations on your wizard award. ...   Jan 23 05, 09:53
- - Jox   Lori & Nina, Thank you both very much indeed. Ni...   Jan 23 05, 13:23
- - Toumai   Hi James, A wonderfully thought-provoking piece; ...   Jan 23 05, 14:40
- - Jox   Fran, Thank you very much - you comments mean muc...   Jan 23 05, 15:21
- - Psyche   Hi James ! I love the idea of your poem, but ...   Jan 31 05, 10:47
- - Jox   Hi Sylvia, Thank you very much for your visit and...   Jan 31 05, 12:21
- - Psyche   Hi James ! That was a long doorbell ring. Glad...   Jan 31 05, 18:01
- - Jox   Hi Sylvia... That was a long doorbell ring. More...   Jan 31 05, 18:45
- - Psyche   Me again ! No, you've depressed me even mo...   Jan 31 05, 19:41
- - Jox   Hi Sylvia, Sorry to have depressed you more - not...   Jan 31 05, 20:20
- - Toumai   Hi James, Sylvia, I don't think you're of...   Jan 31 05, 23:44
- - Jox   Hi Fran, Thanks for popping back. Neither of you ...   Feb 1 05, 06:00
- - Nina   Hi James I have been trying to catch up on this f...   Feb 1 05, 16:28
- - Jox   Hi Nina, Good to see you back; thank you. >>I ha...   Feb 1 05, 21:07

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