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Posted on: May 13 06, 12:37 |
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Hey Jim, The indention does look much better. I'm glad it worked out for you. I understand your concern on the italics. If it were me (and it isn't ), I would have put "an hour ago" in parentheses and italicized "inhale". Just a different way of looking at it. QUOTE QUOTE (I think you could do without "a" in both the first two lines) you may be right, free form is not my forte and this is the desire for structure asserting itself, I think. Not convinced yet though, can't see the harm in leaving this metred. Maybe if you could explain how this omission improves this? Always willing to learn. I suggested it because of the minimalism of the first four stanzas. You seem to be striving to drive home the setting in as few words as possible, and it works well. I just feel that removing "a" from those lines would be in keeping with that idea. Some will suggest to remove every "a, and, the" from any free verse poem. I personally feel that it depends on the "mood" of the poem. In this case the mood is very minimalistic. Make any sense? Dan |
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Posted on: May 13 06, 03:27 |
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QUOTE(Cleo_Serapis @ May 12 06, 09:20 ) [snapback]75048[/snapback] Dan! ~Cleo Thanks Lori. Dan |
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Posted on: May 12 06, 01:54 |
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Hello.
I really enjoyed this read. It's odd that human nature often lends itself to silliness. "You may have killed me, but you haven't beat me. Here let me show you." Somehow, that attitude often makes us feel better about ourselves.
Just a couple of suggestions, use or chuck.
white on red forbidding, light up anyway
I assume you are talking about the "No Smoking" signs. I've always seen them as red on white, but I'm sure that's just personal preferance.
a woman coughs (I think you could do without "a" in both the first two lines) a man complains “bite me” inhale
I'm going to argue against italicizing in place of the parentheses, only because I would like to see "inhale" italicized throughout the poem, just to add a bit of emphasis. Also, I would suggest changing the centered stanzas to just slightly indented. It breaks up the read a little too much, IMO.
This was insightful and very well done.
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Posted on: May 8 06, 07:43 |
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QUOTE(Cathy @ May 8 06, 07:27 ) [snapback]74846[/snapback] Hi Dan,
I like this, and the alliteration makes it very pleasant to read~
Lost in a fog of a poet's pondering; cartridge full, but ballpoint barren- my pen's in a coma, apparently allergic to paper's fine grain. Good intro!
Muse's rainbow rhapsody of metaphorical meanderings - I especially like the alliteration in this line. *smiles* silent and still; her normally loquacious tool in oblivious contemplation{.}[...]
[s]o I pick up my pencil. These last two lines feel as though they should be connected rather than separated with an end stop. Maybe it's just me ... lol
Wonderful response to the challenge~
Cathy Hi Cathy. I almost missed your post among mine. :) Glad I didn't, though. I love your suggestion for the ending, and will change it when I revise. As always, you come in with great ideas! Thanks so much. Dan |
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Posted on: May 8 06, 07:39 |
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Hey Daniah. So glad you could stop in and take a look. QUOTE(Siren @ May 7 06, 04:43 ) [snapback]74735[/snapback] Hey Dan, Such a live poem! Catchy title too! :) The title was my favorite part. lolLost in a fog of a poet's pondering; cartridge full, but ballpoint barren- great contrast in these two lines Thanks!my pen's in a coma, apparently allergic to paper's fine grain. excellent line and my favorite too Ha! Also the very last line to get done. I struggled to find something that worked here.Muse's rainbow rhapsody of metaphorical meanderings - silent and still; awesome alliterations giving this a catchy rhythm"rainbow rhapsody" was one of the given phrases, and it just kinda led me into the rest of the alliteration. I'm glad you like it.her normally loquacious tool in oblivious contemplation. So I pick up my pencil. Dan,
Nothing makes one want to do the hoola-hoop more than the after math of being hit by ones muse. She is some powerful aphrodisiac. :) I so enjoyed this upbeat read. Great with ones morning coffee.
Thank you very much. Me and my muse get along fairly well, considering neither of us understands what the other is saying.
DaniAs always, a pleasure. Dan |
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Posted on: May 8 06, 07:32 |
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Thanks for stopping in Nina. It's always appreciated. QUOTE(Nina @ May 7 06, 00:28 ) [snapback]74723[/snapback] Hi Dan It's good to see this here in Seren's. I enjoyed reading it again. A good thing we have different media for writing. I use either pen, pencil or WP depending where I am at the time. I also have work spread around on about 4 different PCs and a few notebooks, lol. My favorite is a pencil, small notebook, and the hammock out back, especially in a light rain. Of course, I usually fall asleep and end up soaking wet. A few suggestions - take or leave as you wish. [add] {delete} commentLost in a fog of a poet's pondering; cartridge full, {but} ballpoint barren- consider it gone!my pen's in a coma, {apparently} allergic I'm tossing this idea around, and haven't decided yet.to paper's fine grain. Muse's rainbow rhapsody of metaphorical meanderings - silent and still; her normally loquacious tool in oblivious contemplation. ... a wonderfully poetic verse with excellent alliterationWhy, thankee!So I pick up my pencil. ...good final line. The muse won't be silenced.Thanks. My muse usually doesn't say anything meaningful, but she's always saying something. :)Nina I enjoyed writing this one as the phrases we were given sort of naturally led me to it. That always makes it easier. Dan |
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Posted on: May 7 06, 00:08 |
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Thanks Nina, Cathy, and Lori. Pen's in a Coma (Revision #1)
Lost in a fog of a poet's pondering; cartridge full, ballpoint barren- my pen's in a coma, apparently allergic to paper's fine grain.
Muse's rainbow rhapsody of metaphorical meanderings - silent and still; her normally loquacious tool in oblivious contemplation...
I pick up my pencil. ---------------------------------------- Original Pen's in a Coma
Lost in a fog of a poet's pondering; cartridge full, but ballpoint barren- my pen's in a coma, apparently allergic to paper's fine grain.
Muse's rainbow rhapsody of metaphorical meanderings - silent and still; her normally loquacious tool in oblivious contemplation.
So I pick up my pencil. |
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Posted on: May 6 06, 23:56 |
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Ok, I lied. I'm getting to this tonight. Glad to see you back at it. As usual, any suggestions you don't like you can throw in a bottomless pit. [] = add, {} = delete, () = comment - - the usual QUOTE(Siren @ May 6 06, 19:40 ) [snapback]74719[/snapback] She lapsed into eidetic depths; when a wand of kindness {had} zapped {her}[a] teenage heart into {an} amorous pith-- (great line!) cushioned innocence in a sweet citrus scent-- (I don't really understand this line) fresh and appealing.
Her slinky frame {had} dillydallied-- moonlight{ed}[ing] as his shadow-- in star crossed puppiness. His frizzy locks turned into long silky waves, {round}[narrow][,] squinting eyes into almond shapes, (round squinting seems a bit of an oxymoron to me) thin lips into tempting lusciousness, and small frame into Kratos. (great job of contrasting her to her vision of him)
Though her blindness {had} healed[,] decades after the break-- when routine shifted into cruelty-- her youth eloped and landed in the hearth of Kratos'{s} smile. (love these last two lines) My mythology is rustier than a sunken ship, so you'll have to remind me if this is referring to a specific story, or if you're just embellishing. Painful? Please. Not nearly as painful as seeing nothing from you at all. Hope I've been some help, Dan |
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Posted on: May 4 06, 22:16 |
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Hey Nina, A very, very powerful answer to a challenge. Each stanza really built off the previous one until you're nearly wrung out at the end. Which is why I personally think this would end a bit more powerfully if you dropped the last line completely, thus: With hope defeated by fear’s wall I travel too late - Letting the reader's imagination finish this on their own would really have an impact, IMO. Of course, I've been told I'm a nut, too. Just a suggestion, of course. Well done, Dan |
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Posted on: May 4 06, 15:23 |
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QUOTE(Siren @ May 3 06, 18:40 ) [snapback]74588[/snapback] Hello Dan,
This is such a poignant piece! You have had help from the best and this worked out wonderfully.
Love the ending line, hanging there all alone giving the finale a powerful punch.
Great read Daniah Hello Daniah, It's so wonderful to see you in my thread (it's been a really long time and you probably have no idea who this is ). Thanks for the nice comments, and I did get a lot of excellent help with this. The first (and last) line of this had been running through my head for a while, and this is what came of it. I'm glad you like it. Dan |
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Posted on: May 2 06, 07:41 |
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QUOTE(Cathy @ May 1 06, 08:13 ) [snapback]74481[/snapback] Hadn't thought of that! LOL That works even better!
Cathy I really appreciate all your help, Cathy. "Shared" it is. Dan |
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Posted on: May 1 06, 08:28 |
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Hey Cathy, You made excellent use of the allotted words. A very enjoyable read. Here's a few suggestions for you mull over. As always, set fire to anything you don't like. {delete} [add] (comment) - the usual QUOTE(Cathy @ May 1 06, 07:17 ) [snapback]74472[/snapback] In A Moment
With {the}[a} tick of time comes {a}[the] moment irretrievable, (the word swap adds more importance to the moment for me) devouring the sandstone base (I don't really understand "sandstone base", but then again, I'm dense) of a sad existence.
Showers of plaintive music fall upon glass ears, reverberating through the mind[,] while uncertain feet kitten-pad across life's canvas, (I love kitten-pad, great analogy!) unable to find a coordinated design. (wonderful stanza)
With brush of dillweed she dips into the paintpot ... hesitates; then begins the stroke that will mark her life forever. (I personally would restructure the first couple lines of this stanza, something like:
Dipping dillweed brush, she hesitates;
or maybe
She dips dillweed brush ... hesitates;
I think paintpot can be assumed and isn't really necessary. I'm suggesting this even though paint and pot are some of the required words.)
Cathy Bollhoefer copyright Apr2006
coordinate(d) dill(weed) glass kitten{s} music paint pot sandstone shower(s) tick I've really got to find the time to get in on some of these challenges, and pieces like this just make me want to even more. Thanks for the read. Hope I've been some help, Dan |
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Posted on: May 1 06, 08:02 |
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QUOTE(Cathy @ May 1 06, 07:04 ) [snapback]74468[/snapback] Hi Dan,
It's coming together quite nicely but I still have a problem with the end. 'Someone else' feels tacked on or something, like it doesn't quite belong. Maybe it's just me. What about
and the morning after - sly smiles ... though someone else.
or something like that ... just a thought! *smiles*
Cathy I see what you mean. What about: sly smiles... shared with someone else just to keep the alliteration going Thanks, Dan |
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Posted on: May 1 06, 07:31 |
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QUOTE(Nina @ May 1 06, 00:46 ) [snapback]74451[/snapback] Hi Dan
A very powerful, very sad tale of someone who's creativity is being caged by a need to perform in a job, a person who feels he is being controlled/manipulated by those with the power to pull the strings.
There is a sense of "prostituting" himself, selling his integrity, living a lie, putting on a good performance for something that turns out to be nothing, unfulfilling. The light he saw is just a barrier and dead-end and doesn't lead to satisfaction.
He needs to escape from the emotional cage.
I very much enjoyed the read.
Nina Hey Nina. I'm very happy that this piece brought out such emotion for you. It isn't really what I intended when starting out, but seems to be working anyway. "Prostituting" never came to mind, but a perfect way to sum up the feel of this one. Thanks for the comments, Dan |
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Posted on: Apr 30 06, 17:36 |
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QUOTE Since it's been a long time, you're gonna hafta remind me what 'Dan' you are, since my short-term memory is begging to seem affected by the onset of mild dementia ? I'm assuming that you're not Daniel Barlow, since that name has appeared here separately... but of couse you could have changed it? LOL!! I don't think two years or more qualifies as "short-term". We've crossed paths on this board and a previous one. I was vredfreak there, formerly Atlantis here. Alas, to find I left no memorable impression darkens my thoughts and leadens my heart. (just kidding) The name is Daniel Vredenburg and I'm pleased to make your acquaintance . . . again. Until later, Dan |
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Posted on: Apr 30 06, 13:59 |
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QUOTE(JustDaniel @ Apr 30 06, 07:26 ) [snapback]74376[/snapback] Greetings! I cannot say that I fully grasp the picture that is acted out here; though there is tremendous angst and evident regret almost bordering in bitterness, I'm not sure that I see who the audience are and what they're observing with such awe, amusement, curiosity or belittling. But the deep feelings both underneath and visible are quite clear. Your meter and flow are absolutely perfect throughout... with the exception of this line, 'tattered' being a tic... but perhaps a good one: A very moving portrayal. anticipating more Light, Daniel It's been a long time Daniel, and I'm glad to see you still "deLighting" the boards. As for the piece: I ended up leaving it cryptic for a specific reason. When I started, it honestly wasn't supposed to be quite this grim. I was simply feeling tired and irritated by the demands of work, school, and family. I started trying to write something to encompass all those things pulling at me, not leaving me any time for myself. But the farther I went, the more morbid it became, so I left it for the reader to interpret as they will. Thanks for pointing out the extra syllable, I missed that one. I'll see what I can do. That other Daniel, simply called Dan |
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Posted on: Apr 30 06, 01:49 |
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Thanks to Daniel, Lori
Shadow Puppet (Revision #1)
An actor trapped in shadow puppet play, my thoughts implanted; lines from hidden page. Encasing light, that seemed to show the way, was nothing more than curtains. “Cue the stage!” I did my part to entertain each day, as crowds would gather 'round; all watching me. And signs were posted everywhere to say, “Enjoy our daily act, admission's free!”. Some parents held their children high to see, while others tossed assorted coins in shame, that lay unseen below my feet; a fee to lighten burdens weighed with guilt and blame. And I performed. My sorrow, pain, or glee were scenes for critics' thumbs to give review. The smiles, the tears, and moments dear to me; directed farces acted right on cue.
a life tattooed with light of every hue; a movie played on walls destroyed by rage; remorseful epitaph on slab askew - “The light was false. Emotion was my cage.”
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Shadow Puppet
An actor trapped in shadow puppet play, my thoughts implanted; lines from hidden page. Encasing light, that seemed to show my way, was nothing more than curtains. “Cue the stage!” I did my part to entertain each day, as crowds would gather 'round, all watching me. And signs were posted everywhere to say, “Enjoy our daily act, admission's free!”. Some parents held their children high to see, while others tossed assorted coins, in shame, that lay unseen below my feet; a fee to lighten burdens weighed with guilt and blame. And I performed. My sorrow, pain, or glee were scenes for critics' thumbs to give review. The smiles, the tears, and moments dear to me; directed farces acted right on cue.
a life tattooed with light of every hue; a movie played on canvas tattered with age; remorseful epitaph on slab askew - “The light was false. Emotion was my cage.” |
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