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Jun 14 05, 10:11
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*Graphic provided by Celtic Castle DesignsStones (revised - thanks Alan, James and Fran)
As I walk towards you a stone catches my gaze. Picking it up, I feel its presence weighting in my hand. Silken surface, polished smooth by weathering through time. Dark, ebony hues give hint of inner mystery. Tiny imperfections enhance character.
Lonely silence, broken only by distant hum of motorway traffic, accompanies my steps.
I move onward; passing so many rows of scrubbed white stones, stretching so far in geometric arrangement.
Finally, I reach you.
I place warm stone, on cold, hard rim of upright marble. My tears fall freely
A trace of me lies with you. Notes: In Jewish cemeteries no one brings flowers to put on graves. Instead it is traditional to place a small stone on the headstone to signify that you have visited. This tradition probably goes back to the time before headstones were commonplace when piles of stones were used to mark the location of a grave.
Motorway: The British word for freeway.----------------------- Stones (original)
As I walk towards you, a stone catches my gaze. Picking it up, I feel its presence weighing in my hand. Silken surface, polished smooth by weathering through time. Dark, ebony hue gives hint of inner mystery. Tiny imperfections, enhance character.
Lonely silence, broken only by distant hum of motorway traffic, accompanies my steps. I move onward; passing row upon row of scrubbed white stones, which stretch for miles in geometric arrangement.
Finally I reach you.
Tears fall freely as I place warm stone, on cold, hard rim of upright marble.
A trace of me now marks the place where you lie in earth below. Notes: In Jewish cemeteries no one brings flowers to put on graves. Instead it is traditional to place a small stone on the headstone to signify that you have visited. This tradition probably goes back to the time before headstones were commonplace when piles of stones were used to mark the location of a grave.Nina
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Jun 14 05, 10:37
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Dear Nina,
Quite touching. Didn't know about the stones.
To the poem :
As I walk towards you, -- no comma a stone catches my gaze. Picking it up, I feel its presence weighing in my hand. -- could be :weighting my hand ?
Silken surface, polished smooth by weathering through time. Dark, ebony hue gives -- I'd say hueS give! hint of inner mystery. Tiny imperfections, -- no comma enhance character.
Lonely silence, broken only by distant hum of motorway traffic, -- leave out motorway, strictly British - use generic, say road ? accompanies my steps. -- stanza break ? I move onward; passing row upon row of scrubbed white stones, which stretch for miles in geometric arrangement.
Finally I reach you.
Tears fall freely -- see below as I place warm stone, on cold, hard rim of upright marble.
A trace of me now marks the place -- see below where you lie in earth below.
Just a suggestion - tears at end has more impact ?
I place warm stone, on cold, hard upright marble's rim ; My tears fall freely.
Nina, the last verse simply lacks the simple impact of the others, it sort of peters out, may I suggest a rewite ?
Hope some of this helps - if not, chuck it.
Love Alan
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Jun 14 05, 11:17
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Hi Nina - I didn't know about the stones - thank you.
A few suggestions.
I'm very unsure about my ideas for the final verse - if others suggest better please think on't because I can't quite make that final verse "work."
Cheers, J.
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As I walk towards you, a stone catches my gaze. Picking it up, I feel its presence weighing in my hand.
Silken surface, polished smooth by weathering through time. Dark, ebony hue gives hint of inner mystery. Tiny imperfections, enhance character.
Lonely silence, broken only by distant hum of motorway traffic, accompanies my steps. I move onward; passing {row upon row} [so many rows] of scrubbed white stones, [stretching so far] {which stretch for miles} (My replacement is just an e.g.} in geometric arrangement.
Finally[,] I reach you.
Tears fall freely as I place warm stone, on cold, hard rim of upright marble.
A trace of me [now] {now marks the place} [commemorates] where you lie in earth[,] below.
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Guest_Nina_*
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Jun 14 05, 11:32
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Hi Alan
Thanks for your suggestions
As I walk towards you, -- no comma a stone catches my gaze. Picking it up, I feel its presence weighing in my hand. -- could be :weighting my hand ? yes, I couldn't decide between weighing and weighting and went with weighing in the end.
Silken surface, polished smooth by weathering through time. Dark, ebony hue gives -- I'd say hueS give! hint of inner mystery. Tiny imperfections, -- no comma enhance character. ok, hues it is
Lonely silence, broken only by distant hum of motorway traffic, -- leave out motorway, strictly British - use generic, say road ? accompanies my steps. -- stanza break ? sorry, I'm puzzled as to why I should change motorway to road simply because it is a British word. I want the image of cars going past, very fast. Besides the cemetery I am thinking of is right by the M25. If necessary I will put a footnote to translate.
Nina, the last verse simply lacks the simple impact of the others, it sort of peters out, may I suggest a rewite ? Ok, will think about it. Would it be better if I cut it out completely?
Thanks for your help
Nina
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Jun 14 05, 11:36
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Hi James
A few suggestions. thank you, much appreciated.
I'm very unsure about my ideas for the final verse - if others suggest better please think on't because I can't quite make that final verse "work." Same question as I put to Alan - Do you think the poem would work better if I left the last verse out completely?
Lonely silence, broken only by distant hum of motorway traffic, accompanies my steps. I move onward; passing {row upon row} [so many rows] of scrubbed white stones, [stretching so far] {which stretch for miles} (My replacement is just an e.g.} in geometric arrangement. no problem with changing to so many rows. I couldn't decide between stretching and which stretch, so I'm happy to go with your suggestion.
Thanks
Nina
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Jun 14 05, 11:43
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Hi Nina - yes I saw Alan's comments after I left mine: uncanny.
No I don't think the poem would be better for dropping the final verse because it says something different.
To me it says "I've left a small part of me with you."
Is that what you intended?
If it is I'll try to consider a suggestion as to way round the problem.
Cheers, J.
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Guest_Nina_*
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Jun 14 05, 12:09
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Hi James
No I don't think the poem would be better for dropping the final verse because it says something different.
To me it says "I've left a small part of me with you."
Is that what you intended? yes, that is exactly what I wanted to say.
Nina
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Jun 14 05, 12:25
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Dear Nina,
Re motorway - do use some form of road, roadway etc, just not m'way, was what I meant.
Saves any expl afterwards.
Poss last verse :
Tears fall freely as I place warm stone, on cold, hard rim of upright marble.
A place a trace of me there too ....
Love Alan
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Jun 14 05, 12:49
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Hi Nina, a few ideas to play with - though I still don’t think I have it quite right. Hope something clicks.
Regards, J.
Original:
A trace of me now marks the place where you lie in earth below.
Some ideas:
Where you lie, in earth below, is now marked by a trace of me.
Where you lie, in earth below, is now marked by my trace.
Where you lie, below the earth, is now marked by a trace of me.
Where you lie, below the earth, is now marked by my trace.
My trace now marks where you lie
Where you lie - now marked by my trace
My trace, now marking where you lie,
Where you lie I now leave a little of me.
I now leave a little of me where you lie.
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Guest_Nina_*
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Jun 14 05, 13:02
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Hi James
Thanks for all your suggestion for the last verse. I think I need to mull it over for a while.
Cheers
Nina
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Jun 14 05, 13:33
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Hi Nina,
Your poem is deeply moving regarding visiting the grave of a loved one. When someone has given us much in life we want to honour them with something of ourselves, to show our respect and love. Leaving a stone when one visits sounds like a beautiful tradition; thank you for explaining it.
I can see you have plenty of suggestions from Alan and James and are busy mulling them, but I have one more to add - use or toss: your choice as always.
which stretch for miles in geometric arrangement.
The first line seems a little weak and I wonder if
passing row upon row of scrubbed white stones{,}[: or ;] endless geometic arrangements
would simplify and strength the idea, perhaps?
Fran
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Guest_Nina_*
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Jun 14 05, 14:29
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Hi Fran
Thanks for your comments they are much appreciated.
I can see you have plenty of suggestions from Alan and James and are busy mulling them, but I have one more to add - use or toss: your choice as always.
which stretch for miles in geometric arrangement.
The first line seems a little weak and I wonder if
passing row upon row of scrubbed white stones{,}[: or ;] endless geometic arrangements
would simplify and strength the idea, perhaps? yes, I half like the suggestion, my only problem is with the word endless. To me it implies lots of different arrangements rather than one.
Nina
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Jun 14 05, 14:43
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I think that's the way I see them, Nina; even one layout of stones makes endlessly different patterns depending on the viewpoint of the observer ... but I see what you mean: not quite right. :turtle:
Fran
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Jun 14 05, 14:51
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Hi James, Alan
would this wording work better for the last verse:
A trace of me rests above you
Fran
interesting how we view things differently. I just see regimented straight lines rather than lost of geometric patterns
Nina
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Jun 14 05, 15:50
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Hi Nina,
Well, it's entirely your choice but - since you ask...
"A trace of me rests above you"
I don't think works because it sounds either sexual or rather fantastical - like levitation. Sorry! But your choice.
It really is a pesky one this!
J.
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Guest_Nina_*
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Jun 14 05, 15:58
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Hi James
OK I'll consign that one to the recycle bin
"back to the drawing board"
Nina
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Jun 14 05, 16:11
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Sorry Nina - but I'm sure it's worth it.
J.
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