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Nov 12 16, 00:37
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Hi from MM to all poets and writers! This time the challenge allows you to have your say on Bob Dylan's theme, sung here by Joan Baez, during the idealistic decade of the 1960's.
Since Bob Dylan has been given the Literature Nobel Prize 2016, it seems like a good opportunity to honor him with your preferred form, FV mode or short story. The lyrics are posted below the video. You're allowed to borrow some lines or words from Bob Dylan's work.
Having said that, poets and writers are invited to use irony, humor, admiration or even to engage the "in answer to" mode, criticize or respond in whatever way you please. No strings attached. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUZGGFOV6FMLyrics Oh my name it ain't nothin' My age it means less The country I come from Is called the Midwest I was taught and brought up there The laws to abide And that land that I live in Has God on its side
Oh, the history books tell it They tell it so well The cavalries charged The Indians fell The cavalries charged The Indians died Oh, the country was young With God on its side
The Spanish-American War had its day And the Civil War, too Was soon laid away And the names of the heroes I was made to memorize With guns in their hands And God on their side
The First World War, boys It came and it went The reason for fighting I never did get But I learned to accept it Accept it with pride For you don't count the dead When God's on your side
The Second World War Came to an end We forgave the Germans And then we were friends Though they murdered six million In the ovens they fried The Germans now, too Have God on their side
I've learned to hate the Russians All through my whole life If another war comes It's them we must fight To hate them and fear them To run and to hide And accept it all bravely With God on my side
But now we got weapons Of chemical dust If fire them, we're forced to Then fire, them we must One push of the button And a shot the world wide And you never ask questions When God's on your side
Through many a dark hour I've been thinkin' about this That Jesus Christ was Betrayed by a kiss But I can't think for you You'll have to decide Whether Judas Iscariot Had God on his side.
So now as I'm leavin' I'm weary as Hell The confusion I'm feelin' Ain't no tongue can tell The words fill my head And fall to the floor That if God's on our side He'll stop the next war
Written by Bob Dylan • Copyright © Bob Dylan Music Co.Anxious to receive your answers to this mighty challenge! Cheers, MM
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Mis temas favoritos The Lord replied, my precious, precious child, I love you and I would never leave you. During your times of trial and suffering, when you see only one set of footprints, it was then that I carried you.
"There is no life higher than the grasstops Or the hearts of sheep, and the wind Pours by like destiny, bending Everything in one direction."
Sylvia Plath, Crossing the Water, Wuthering Heights. Nominate a poem for the InterBoard Poetry Competition by taking into careful consideration those poems you feel would best represent Mosaic Musings. For details, click into the IBPC nomination forum. Did that poem just captivate you? Nominate it for the Faery award today! If perfection of form allured your muse, propose the Crown Jewels award. For more information, click here!MM Award Winner
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Nov 17 16, 23:25
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As with any writer of music in the 60's, Dylan wrote this with Viet Nam in mind but I feel his words were penned with much more than a hint of sarcasm. Thus, my "in answer to" Villanelle response is written from God's viewpoint on killing in His name.
My Name in Vain
To vindicate a death, it’s never right; or to invoke My name to justify your true intents. They’re sinful in My sight.
The souls you send into eternal night are dear to Me and never qualify to vindicate a death. It’s never right
to kill! You turn the other cheek in spite of wrongs you deem are done; don’t alibi your true intents. They’re sinful in My sight.
I treasure every soul and know their plight when jealousy or greed some men deny to vindicate a death. It’s never right
to take my name in vain. It’s not My fight for I’m the God of love and I decry your true intents. They’re sinful in My sight
No man should kill for Me and shield bedight with some symbolic sign. No flag should fly to vindicate a death, it’s never right. Your true intents; they’re sinful in My sight.
Larry
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Nov 19 16, 02:29
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Hi Larry,
I'm so pleased to read a good villanelle written by you!
I'm also glad you chose the "in answer to" mode. Bob Dylan indeed used sarcasm in this poem/song. Well, he used it a lot and doesn't even appear to be impressed by the Nobel Prize they've honored him with. I understand he's accepted it, but will not be present at the ceremony. My grand-boys, who're both music professors at a university, think it doesn't make sense to have chosen Dylan. IMO, there should be a category for poets-singers-bands, whatever. Still, these are merely opinions. I happen to like "With God on our Side" and think that Dylan achieved just the right kind of irony to make it a great song.
BTW, I especially like your last stanza and the one before. I confess I had to look up bedight... always learning new words from your poems!
No man should kill for Me and shield bedight with some symbolic sign. No flag should fly to vindicate a death, it’s never right. Your true intents; they’re sinful in My sight.
.....................................It’s not My fight for I’m the God of love and I decry your true intents. They’re sinful in My sight
Oh my, there's never anything to crit in your poems, Larry. Will you allow me to suggest you need a full-stop after 'sight' (above, I just noticed it's missing!)
And I now notice that I made a mistake about Daniel answering another challenge. It's Rhymer's poem. I shall come back asap. to comment on it. Did you see it? Maybe he'd love to have your comments, in fact I'm sure he would.
Best, Syl
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Mis temas favoritos The Lord replied, my precious, precious child, I love you and I would never leave you. During your times of trial and suffering, when you see only one set of footprints, it was then that I carried you.
"There is no life higher than the grasstops Or the hearts of sheep, and the wind Pours by like destiny, bending Everything in one direction."
Sylvia Plath, Crossing the Water, Wuthering Heights. Nominate a poem for the InterBoard Poetry Competition by taking into careful consideration those poems you feel would best represent Mosaic Musings. For details, click into the IBPC nomination forum. Did that poem just captivate you? Nominate it for the Faery award today! If perfection of form allured your muse, propose the Crown Jewels award. For more information, click here!MM Award Winner
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Nov 19 16, 13:38
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Hi Syl,
Thanks for stopping by for a read of my Villanelle. When I was writing it, I thought "What a daunting challenge!" but as I have said before, I will give it my best shot. The Villanelle was not my best shot but my post below will have to do. Hopefully, it will format here like I have it on my Word program. I can't get it to format after numerous tries so I will just post my side of the poem and you can check out Bob's in the original challenge post.
Don’t Be a Fool
Oh, my name’s God the Father and ageless; I am from Heaven. Don’t bother to seek the pure Lamb. Someone taught you about me and Moses’ ten rules, no one is my enemy lest they are all fools.
Oh, the bible will tell you in page after page what you shouldn’t do to cause me to rage. You’ve read of Gomorrah and Sodom in schools. Oh, they had no tomorrow for they were all fools.
You have names and number all of your wars, laud heroes who slumber beneath their earth scars. As you laid them to rest, did you ever think of the jewel that I created; then you are a fool.
The conflicts you fight throughout centuries for greed or for spite will never appease; but you lack understanding of My golden rule. Each soul’s a precious thing and none are a fool.
You say you forgive but in your heart; for as long as you live you will never start to comprehend My mercy; I’ve given you the tools to find paths to Me so don’t you be fools.
Please don’t learn to hate nations and fear all your life, they’re all my creation; it only brings strife. Your hate and your fear makes some learn to be cruel. Each of you will have mistakes so don’t be a fool.
I’ve given you free will, intelligence too; if thinking you must kill here’s what you can do. Befriend every creature, befriend them and you’ll have learned much from your teacher. I love every fool.
Though I sent you my Son in a long forgotten age to teach everyone love turns aside rage. Some think Judas betrayed but he was the fuel. Christ asked and the prophecy made him look like a fool.
I’ll leave you deciding what you wish to do, though My love is abiding your heart must be true. Don’t make Me be cruel and cause you to fall because you’ll be a fool with no world at all.
Larry
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Nov 30 16, 00:05
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Hi Larry, I finally got here, thanks to your prompt in another thread.
This one is great too, but I prefer your villanelle, sorry there! As to the format, I often find MM's system doesn't allow for certain patterns, especially in FV.
Trouble is, if you were trying to use Dylan's format, it can get complicated. If music is attached to poems, then the poems have to be slashed here and there to fit the music. I suppose you know all about that.
All the same, you've made God's response very well. I like the repetition of the end lines, always using the word fool, as in the title. Your last stanza is amazing.
I’ll leave you deciding what you wish to do, though My love is abiding your heart must be true. Don’t make Me be cruel and cause you to fall because you’ll be a fool with no world at all.
No world at all... don't get me discussing the devastation humanity has caused our lovely planet. And there appears to be no end of wars, seeing as they are an industry dealing in mountains of money. Sad.
I may return to read it again, Larry. I'm a bit dim now, time for bed! Best, Syl BTW, I've been away more than usual because my eldest grandson came over with his girlfriend for our long weekend. Had to take advantage of their presence. They left for Buenos Aires a few hours ago. And Sunday was my birthday! My daughter prepared a delicious chocolate fondue, the kind you use the long forks to dip all sorts of fruits, berries, cherries, etc. into the creamy chocolate. Wow, I thought I would make myself sick, but that didn't happen... LOL.
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Mis temas favoritos The Lord replied, my precious, precious child, I love you and I would never leave you. During your times of trial and suffering, when you see only one set of footprints, it was then that I carried you.
"There is no life higher than the grasstops Or the hearts of sheep, and the wind Pours by like destiny, bending Everything in one direction."
Sylvia Plath, Crossing the Water, Wuthering Heights. Nominate a poem for the InterBoard Poetry Competition by taking into careful consideration those poems you feel would best represent Mosaic Musings. For details, click into the IBPC nomination forum. Did that poem just captivate you? Nominate it for the Faery award today! If perfection of form allured your muse, propose the Crown Jewels award. For more information, click here!MM Award Winner
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Nov 30 16, 10:05
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Hi Syl,
Thanks for finally popping in for a read and comment.
What I was trying to do was to put my answer to Dylan's song on the left-hand side of the page and the song on the right-hand side but I couldn't get MM to accept columns or alignment HTML.
I did use his metrical scheme and syllable format in each line so if you put my poem to the same music, it would be sung the same way as his.
Happy belated Birthday. If you had posted your birth date on your profile, my greeting would not have been belated. Glad you had a nice one.
Larry
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Nov 30 16, 20:54
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Don’t Be a Fool
Oh, my name’s God the Father and ageless; I am from Heaven. Don’t bother to seek the pure Lamb. Someone taught you about me and Moses’ ten rules, no one is my enemy lest they are all fools.
Oh, the bible will tell you in page after page what you shouldn’t do to cause me to rage. You’ve read of Gomorrah and Sodom in schools. Oh, they had no tomorrow for they were all fools.
You have names and number all of your wars, laud heroes who slumber beneath their earth scars. As you laid them to rest, did you ever think of the jewel that I created; then you are a fool.
The conflicts you fight throughout centuries for greed or for spite will never appease; but you lack understanding of My golden rule. Each soul’s a precious thing and none are a fool.
You say you forgive but in your heart; for as long as you live you will never start to comprehend My mercy; I’ve given you the tools to find paths to Me so don’t you be fools.
Please don’t learn to hate nations and fear all your life, they’re all my creation; it only brings strife. Your hate and your fear makes some learn to be cruel. Each of you will have mistakes so don’t be a fool.
I’ve given you free will, intelligence too; if thinking you must kill here’s what you can do. Befriend every creature, befriend them and you’ll have learned much from your teacher. I love every fool.
Though I sent you my Son in a long forgotten age to teach everyone love turns aside rage. Some think Judas betrayed but he was the fuel. Christ asked and the prophecy made him look like a fool.
I’ll leave you deciding what you wish to do, though My love is abiding your heart must be true. Don’t make Me be cruel and cause you to fall because you’ll be a fool with no world at all.
Larry Lyrics Oh my name it ain't nothin' My age it means less The country I come from Is called the Midwest I was taught and brought up there The laws to abide And that land that I live in Has God on its side
Oh, the history books tell it They tell it so well The cavalries charged The Indians fell The cavalries charged The Indians died Oh, the country was young With God on its side
The Spanish-American War had its day And the Civil War, too Was soon laid away And the names of the heroes I was made to memorize With guns in their hands And God on their side
The First World War, boys It came and it went The reason for fighting I never did get But I learned to accept it Accept it with pride For you don't count the dead When God's on your side
The Second World War Came to an end We forgave the Germans And then we were friends Though they murdered six million In the ovens they fried The Germans now, too Have God on their side
I've learned to hate the Russians All through my whole life If another war comes It's them we must fight To hate them and fear them To run and to hide And accept it all bravely With God on my side
But now we got weapons Of chemical dust If fire them, we're forced to Then fire, them we must One push of the button And a shot the world wide And you never ask questions When God's on your side
Through many a dark hour I've been thinkin' about this That Jesus Christ was Betrayed by a kiss But I can't think for you You'll have to decide Whether Judas Iscariot Had God on his side.
So now as I'm leavin' I'm weary as Hell The confusion I'm feelin' Ain't no tongue can tell The words fill my head And fall to the floor That if God's on our side He'll stop the next war
Written by Bob Dylan • Copyright © Bob Dylan Music Co.
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Mis temas favoritos The Lord replied, my precious, precious child, I love you and I would never leave you. During your times of trial and suffering, when you see only one set of footprints, it was then that I carried you.
"There is no life higher than the grasstops Or the hearts of sheep, and the wind Pours by like destiny, bending Everything in one direction."
Sylvia Plath, Crossing the Water, Wuthering Heights. Nominate a poem for the InterBoard Poetry Competition by taking into careful consideration those poems you feel would best represent Mosaic Musings. For details, click into the IBPC nomination forum. Did that poem just captivate you? Nominate it for the Faery award today! If perfection of form allured your muse, propose the Crown Jewels award. For more information, click here!MM Award Winner
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Nov 30 16, 22:24
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Hi Syl,
Thanks for the effort. Your results are the same as mine. I wanted to make each line adjacent to and directly across from the original on the page for comparative reasons. I still can't figure out how to accomplish this.
Larry
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