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post Jun 28 05, 04:44
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RL 0333 AC (Thanks, Fran)
Menagerie Hop
by RL

Doctor: say arragh - so...
I swallow him down,
followed by a werewolf,
two giraffes and a clown.

Teacher: quiet - so...
to shut him up,
I converse with a dodo;
bleat to a tup.

Boss: work harder! - so...
I gambol with a greyhound,
polka with a yeti and
drink with a camel (her round).

Vicar: be true to yourself - so...
with a polar bear I rant;
do-si-do with my dog;
play cricket with some ants.

(end)


NB Version change - AB to AC was simply the deletion of "said" after teacher.

This post has been edited by Cleo_Serapis: Jun 14 06, 18:59
 
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post Jun 28 05, 05:26
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Dear Jox,

You have me totally stumped.

Only comment, last word singular would be a better rhyme, nad don't tell me that it is not logical to play cricket with only one other, logic is not entirely evident in the whole poem !

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Alan
 
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post Jun 28 05, 08:40
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Hi James

WOW!  You couldn't get much more of a contrast to your "Girl With the Chestnut Hair" poem.  From politico/religious fanaticism to surrealism or maybe there isn't  such a vast difference.

I did enjoy this poem and I love the rebellion against authority that runs through it.

Doctor: say arragh - so...
I swallow him down,
followed by a werewolf,
two giraffes and a clown.

Hah! revenge on your doctor.  I hope he (and the giraffes and clown) didn't give you indigestion.

Teacher said quiet - so...
to shut him up,
I converse with a dodo;
bleat to a tup.

hehe! How to wind up a teacher in one easy lesson - talk while the teacher is talking.  My daughters are always getting into trouble for chatting in class, no idea where they get it from!
Tup is an interesting word, especially if you use it as a verb.   Fascinating definition on dictionary.com.

Boss: work harder! - so...
I gambol with a greyhound,
polka with a yeti and
drink with a camel (her round).

definitely an employer's worst nightmare and drunk on the job too.

Vicar: be true to yourself - so...
with a polar bear I rant;
do-si-do with my dog;
play cricket with some ants.

It must have been an ant-eresting game.  Hope the ants didn't get squashed by the cricket ball when they were trying to catch you out.

Most chucklesome

Nina
 
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Guest_Jox_*
post Jun 28 05, 09:14
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Hi Alan,

Thanks for your visit.

>A>You have me totally stumped.

LOL! (Cricket term).

>A>Only comment, last word singular would be a better rhyme, nad don't tell me that it is not logical to play cricket with only one other, logic is not entirely evident in the whole poem !

This is ironic. I originally had it as singular but only changed it because the logic seemed better - but I thgought at your urging...

Haven't I seen on MM that you've said plurals and singulars of the same word are acceptable rhymes? Thought I'd learnt something! Can you explain, please?

Owzat?!

Cheers, J.
 
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post Jun 28 05, 09:21
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Hi Nina,

Thanks for your visit and comments...

>N>WOW!  You couldn't get much more of a contrast to your "Girl With the Chestnut Hair" poem.  From politico/religious fanaticism to surrealism or maybe there isn't  such a vast difference.

LOL! Hadn't thought of that - maybe not.

>N>I did enjoy this poem and I love the rebellion against authority that runs through it.

Thanks Nina - and that was the only "serious" message - rebellion.

Doctor: say arragh - so...
I swallow him down,
followed by a werewolf,
two giraffes and a clown.
Hah! revenge on your doctor.  I hope he (and the giraffes and clown) didn't give you indigestion.

Strangely I was at the Doc's this morning - this is true - a Dr Ailing! And the antibiotics she gave me are, indeed, causing indigestion etc. The giraffes and the clown were very well behaved, though, thank you.

Teacher said quiet - so...
to shut him up,
I converse with a dodo;
bleat to a tup.
hehe! How to wind up a teacher in one easy lesson - talk while the teacher is talking.  My daughters are always getting into trouble for chatting in class, no idea where they get it from!
Tup is an interesting word, especially if you use it as a verb.   Fascinating definition on dictionary.com.

Yes it does rather wind-up a teacher... grrr! :)

You don't talk much do you, Nina? ;)

Thanks for looking it up. Yes "tup" as a verb is, of course, an old Derbyshire past-time.

Boss: work harder! - so...
I gambol with a greyhound,
polka with a yeti and
drink with a camel (her round).
definitely an employer's worst nightmare and drunk on the job too.

Yes, some employers even have "No Yeti" contracts. But I think such are abonominal.

Vicar: be true to yourself - so...
with a polar bear I rant;
do-si-do with my dog;
play cricket with some ants.
It must have been an ant-eresting game.  Hope the ants didn't get squashed by the cricket ball when they were trying to catch you out.

Ouch! Good point! Anyway, Wimbledon is now on - so new balls, please!

>N
Thanks, Nina - glad you enjoyed it!

J.
 
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post Jun 28 05, 10:21
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Dear Jox,

Can't give you any hard and fast rule, but if you CAN use the exact rhyme, as in this case, I think it superior.

I've used the endings/sending rhyme too, but first I would see if I could match both with S or without.

Now be a good boy and don't do what you are told ....

Love
Alan




 
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post Jun 28 05, 10:31
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Hi James

Thanks for looking it up. Yes "tup" as a verb is, of course, an old Derbyshire past-time.
I hope you are referring to the Derbyshire rams rather than humans


Hope you are soon feeling better.


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post Jun 28 05, 11:30
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Hi Alan,

Thanks for the advice - much appreciated. I will amend the work.

J.
 
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post Jun 28 05, 11:45
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Hi Nina,

>J>Thanks for looking it up. Yes "tup" as a verb is, of course, an old Derbyshire past-time.

>N>I hope you are referring to the Derbyshire rams rather than humans

Well, a game for all!

LOL The Derbyshire Ram is very famous. It is a symbol of the county, the local football team is named after it (Derby County - The Rams) and there is a famous folk song... The Derbyshire Ram.

>N>Hope you are soon feeling better.

Ah yes - thanks. Wondered what you meant for a min there. I'm ok thanks - but have a slight infection in a finger which has decided to take residence so antibiotics - but they always make me queasy. Nevertheless, fine else thanks.

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Derbyshire Traditions - scroll down to Derbyshire Tup  (not very exciting)

Better still - here's a version of the original song - there are many versions but all the traditional ones are obscene.

The Derbyshire Ram - lyrics
 
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post Jun 28 05, 12:13
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Hi James

ROFL, the lyrics to the Derbyshire Ram are brilliant. The obscene songs are always the best. The Derbyshire Tup is, as you say not very interesting.  I think I'll stick with the dictionary definition - much more amusing

Oh I missed this earlier

You don't talk much do you, Nina? wink.gif
nah, I'm very quiet  :laugh:

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post Jun 28 05, 12:14
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hmmm...  What title for this....  ummmm

Sir Real ******* with Zookeepers

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post Jun 28 05, 12:48
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Hi James, Daniel

hmmm...  What title for this....  ummmm

Sir Real ******* with Zookeepers


OOer, the mind boggles!!!! With a title like that, this poem would have to be moved straight down to the Sanctuary.

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post Jun 28 05, 13:43
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Oh oh!

It sounds like there's much more to that Brit expression than I have caught on the telly!

If I've somehow offended in my ignorance, please forgive me!

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Hi Daniel

I'm not that easily offended.  I found it quite amusing and guessed that you weren't aware of the more sordid meaning of the word.

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post Jun 28 05, 14:09
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Hi again, Nina.

>N>ROFL, the lyrics to the Derbyshire Ram are brilliant. The obscene songs are always the best. The Derbyshire Tup is, as you say not very interesting.  I think I'll stick with the dictionary definition - much more amusing

LOL - I think they may be linked!

>N>Oh I missed this earlier
>J>You don't talk much do you, Nina?
>N>nah, I'm very quiet

Sorry, probably didn't hear yourself for my chatter!

See you later, cheers, J.
 
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post Jun 28 05, 14:13
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Hi Daniel,

Thanks for your visit.

>D>hmmm...  What title for this....  ummmm

>D>Sir Real ******* with Zookeepers

LOL!

To save us getting into trouble I replaced the word with asterisks - hope that's ok. As Nins says, with a title like that we'd be down the Sanctury.

Actually, despite the joking and dictionary and song references, the poem was simply Sir Real (very clever) - only serious message was (as Nina mentioned earlier) rebellion. Mind you, one joy of surreality is the ability to read into it what we will, so your idea is as good as anyone's!

All the best, J.
 
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post Jun 28 05, 14:19
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Hi Daniel,

>D>Oh oh!

>D>It sounds like there's much more to that Brit expression than I have caught on the telly!

Simply the dictionary definition. The slang use of the word is mild - "messes with" but the literal meaning is rather obscene.

>D>If I've somehow offended in my ignorance, please forgive me!

No ignorance / no offence either - if this were in the Sanctuary (or members' area) no prob but here having to be just a tad careful. Ironically, I'm quite happy with the word (use it daily) but it often seems that the sensibilities of many in the USA are more sensitive than those of people in the UK - then, of course, there are all the other countries about which I know little.

>D>slightly red, Daniel

Been painting the town?

J.
 
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post Jun 28 05, 20:09
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Here's the part of this discussion that was surprising to me, since the verbal use of bug*** in my neck of the woods is merely to toy with someone's brain, play head games, but the other word that you've tossed about (whose meaning I still haven't quite grasped, evidently) is a word that I learned in Scrabble from my father long ago, and there it is in the dictionary:

tup = v. tr.  to copulate with a ewe  Now that seems more vulgar than the other... though I've since looked up the OTHER one and discovered that the primary meaning of that one is exactly as you have said, despite the relatively innocent usage of it locally here!

Anyhow, just some further thoughts on the wonders of vernacular!  My suggested 'title' was all in fun with absolutely no knowledge of the dictionary meaning of the b-word!

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post Jun 29 05, 02:03
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QUOTE(JustDaniel @ June 29 2005, 02:09)

Hi Daniel,

Dashing, so a quick reply, sorry...

Here's the first definition of "tup" in Dictionary.com (the US dictionary which is accessible from MM)...

"Chiefly British. A male sheep; a ram."

That was my meaning.

About 80% of my jokes centre around the subjects to which you allude - but this poem didn't.

Hope that helps?

All the best, J.
 
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James,

This entire thread is now distinctly sir reel(ling).

Also a very interesting discussion on how swear words become less offensive with time/use as the original meaning becomes lost in the past.

And many thanks for the song lyric link. All I can say is Baaaah! (As in what nonsense, of course).

Cheers,

Fran
 
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