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hellfire
post May 2 10, 03:18
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Is it not true
that
the pursuit to nirvana
does not lie
hidden
within the murky depths
of earthly reason,
but rather
in eternal,
luminous springs
nurturing
the throbbing nucleus
of our souls.

They lay
within
our grasp
and yet
so often,
forgotten…
 
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Siren
post May 2 10, 19:10
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Hello James,

I do like how you have formed this and the message within. I do see some punctuation changes to be made.

[] = delete ()= add

Is it not true [?]
that
the pursuit to nirvana
does not lie [,]
hidden
within the murky depths
of earthly reason,
but rather
in [the] eternal,
luminous springs
[that] nurtur(ing)
the throbbing nucleus
of our souls (.)

[All] (They lay)
within
our grasp
and yet(,)
so often [,]
forgotten...



Ofcourse you can choose to take or toss

Dani


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Psyche
post May 2 10, 23:27
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Hi James,

I like the questioning tone of this mystical piece very much. I have one or two suggestions for you to take or toss, as usual.




QUOTE (hellfire @ May 2 10, 10:18 ) *
Is it not true? <<<<<<<<< remove question mark here.
that
the pursuit to nirvana
does not lie, <<<<<<<<< no need for comma here, it interrupts the flow.
hidden
within the murky depths
of earthly reason,
but rather
in [the] eternal , <<<<<<<< 'the' is unnecessary.
luminous springs
[that nurtures] <<<<<<<<< 'nurturing'
the throbbing nucleus
of our souls

All
within
our grasp
and yet
so often,
forgotten…


I like your finale, it's so true & sad that in our modern, rushing society this basic wisdom escapes our attention. Fewer people take time off for meditation.

A fine poem appealing to our innermost self, before it becomes too late.

Sylvia


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hellfire
post May 2 10, 23:34
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thnak you dani for the comments and suggestions. much appreciated

regards

helfire
 
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hellfire
post May 2 10, 23:42
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thank you sylvia

the changes are in effect. much appreciated

regards

james
 
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post May 3 10, 00:09
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Hey James!

That was a quick rev. I think it's beautifully polished now, whereas the essence of your poem remains the same.

Congrats, I hope more people spy this profound piece.

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The Lord replied, my precious, precious child, I love you and I would never leave you. During your times of trial and suffering, when you see only one set of footprints, it was then that I carried you.


"There is no life higher than the grasstops
Or the hearts of sheep, and the wind
Pours by like destiny, bending
Everything in one direction."

Sylvia Plath, Crossing the Water, Wuthering Heights.



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post May 3 10, 01:03
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Dear James,

Well, I think I get what you are saying, and if I have it right, it is a good message.

My problem is the sort of double negative within the first sentence, or several lines. The word NOT appears 2x in the first 4 lines, and means that I have to stop to untangle the thought.

Perhaps there is a way of recasting it ?

BTW, anything I offer by way of crit is for you to view (or not), adopt, adapt, or chuck. Compared to you as the originator of the poem, I am but an annoying mosquito !

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post May 4 10, 10:35
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thanks alan

appreciate the feedback

regards

james
 
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post May 4 10, 17:34
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Hi James

I really like the profound message of this poem and your recent revision. I just have a few thoughts to pass on to you - take or toss!

Is it not true
that
the pursuit to nirvana
does not lie
hidden
within the murky depths
of earthly reason,
but rather
in eternal,
luminous springs
nurturing
the throbbing nucleus
of our souls.

First, I can see Alan's point about the double negative at the beginning.


'Is it not true that the pursuit to nirvana does not lie ....'

The way this is worded does not make your message completely clear. I think perhaps a more positive 1st line -- something like

'Surely it's true...'

Also - I was once told that if you have a line which has only 1 or 2 words in it, then those words must have great impact. Bearin this message in mind, your 2nd line is 'that' ... which I do not think is particularly strong enough to stand alone. My preference would be

Is it not true that
the pursuit to nirvana
does not lie
hidden
within the murky depths
of earthly reason,



They lay
within
our grasp
and yet
so often,
forgotten…

I hope something I've said might help in some way, but it is your poem to use or lose as you wish. It is good to read your work, with such a strong message.

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post May 13 10, 23:41
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Hi James,

I like the message, and agree with the critique by Dani... You have laid out some "truths" here, without sounding didactic
or preachy-it's a nice poem.

Karen




QUOTE (hellfire @ May 2 10, 04:18 ) *
Is it not true
that
the pursuit to nirvana
does not lie
hidden
within the murky depths
of earthly reason,
but rather
in eternal,
luminous springs
nurturing
the throbbing nucleus
of our souls.

They lay
within
our grasp
and yet
so often,
forgotten…


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hellfire
post May 16 10, 01:55
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thank you karin

appreciate the comments and support

regards

james
 
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