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post Aug 2 05, 02:23
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Fran has raised the question of use of adverbs being unfashionable a couple of times on threads  which I hope she doesn't mind me quoting.


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Is there a single verb for 'tread eagerly' that would let you loose the adverb? I quite like adverbs (as does JKR, lol), but they are rather unfashionable these days


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again, would 'loom' or similar enable you to loose 'tower menacingly' ?


Why is it unfashionable?

Why should one follow the trend and lose the adverbs simply because it is not the "cool" thing to do so?

Who dictates what is or isn't the "in" style?

I thought poetry was about originality, leading not following and personally I can't understand this point of view.

Discuss please.

Nina
 
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Guest_Don_*
post Aug 2 05, 17:29
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Hi all,

I have a mentor older than I who believes in the older tropes such as rhymed forms.  However, she insists on we students not using ly or ing endings (note the contradiction).  Often instructions are to not use any adverbs or adjectives.  The result is that nouns and verbs become modifiers, which is also a contraction.  It is like using a noun as an adjective, but the dictionary claims it is a noun. Of course, the idea is to use as many action nouns and verbs as possible.

Since I have composed using these advancing features, I've noted a few flaws above.

What is the purpose?  The purpose I have found agreeable. It is to make the poem tighter, terser and promote action, which keeps reader interest.  It is simple as that.  If you can keep reader interest otherwise, do it. Our practice sessions make identical poems with and without modifiers.
The latter usually wins during comparison.

In time another theory will offset this terse action-trap-the-reader trick.
We forever look for the illusive magic wand that does everything with minimum effort.

Trust this information has been helpful. Art is using the hues that you like, and don't forget it.

Don
 
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- Nina   Poetic Fashion   Aug 2 05, 02:23
- - Toumai   Hi, Nina I am sorry to have bothered you with tha...   Aug 2 05, 02:53
- - Jox   Hi Nina, Fran, et al. Firstly, in any and all wal...   Aug 2 05, 03:01
- - Nina   Hi Fran Your comment didn't bother me in the ...   Aug 2 05, 06:52
- - Jox   Hi Nina, >N>(i.e. nothing I can argue against LOL...   Aug 2 05, 07:05
- - Nina   Hi James What an unusual lady you are! Never ...   Aug 2 05, 13:26
- - Jox   Hi Nina, No there is no point in arguing for the ...   Aug 2 05, 13:47
- - Nina   Hi James So, what's the next topic Good ques...   Aug 2 05, 13:54
- - Toumai   Milk it for what it's worth  :sun: Fran   Aug 2 05, 14:04
- - Cleo_Serapis   I agree with Fran that it appears a action verb in...   Aug 2 05, 14:33
- - Jox   My bug-bare with conjunctions is when writers put ...   Aug 2 05, 15:19
- - Jox   Fran, >F>Milk it for what it's worth If we s...   Aug 2 05, 15:22
- - Nina   J If we spend too long on it, people may become c...   Aug 2 05, 15:33
- - Jox   N :) J.   Aug 2 05, 15:37
- - Toumai   And what is the problem with conjunctions, Lori? B...   Aug 2 05, 15:41
- - Cleo_Serapis   QUOTE (Toumai @ Aug. 02 2005, 16:41) And wha...   Aug 2 05, 18:21
- - Jox   Hi Lori, I agree with being tight in poetry (limi...   Aug 2 05, 18:28
- - Don   Hi Lori, I am more likely to use a conjunction (s...   Aug 2 05, 19:07
- - Cleo_Serapis   I know - I find it hard to not use complete senten...   Aug 7 05, 11:25
- - Don   QUOTE (Cleo_Serapis @ Aug. 07 2005, 12:25)I k...   Aug 7 05, 12:14
- - Don   Someone asked way back what is the other topic. ...   Aug 7 05, 14:07
- - jgdittier   Dear All, I haven't attempted prose and so my ...   Mar 31 08, 09:33

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